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    Backup solution??

    What do you think of the following backup solution?

    Say, I get a 40GB or 80GB hard drive for a system.

    Instead of getting a tape drive and oodles of tapes, get the following:

    2 of Maxtor's Personal Storage external USB (or Firewire) hard drives, each of which would have a capacity larger than the internal hard drive.

    1 DVD-ROM/CD-RW

    I could then alternate using the Maxtor drives to do a full backup of the hard drive, unplugging the drive to protect from power failures.

    The CD-RW could be used for incremental/differential backups.

    Seems like this would be at least as reliable as using tapes and less expensive.

    I have no need to save old back ups. If I did, then I'd save files to CD-RW.

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    Re: Backup solution??

    Definitely the way to go. <img src=/S/thumbup.gif border=0 alt=thumbup width=15 height=15> Forget tapes, I've had lots of problems with them in the past (too slow, read/write failures, etc). With DVD so common and such big capacity, if you can afford DVD burner go for it; otherwise CD-R are very cheap alternative. I'd also recommend a mirror image back up of your system as well. If I was to build another PC I'd have mirrored bottable drives (hot swap) so when the booted one @#$!% out, I can just swap it out and replace it with its mirrored cousin.

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    Re: Backup solution??

    I have found the plug-and-play on USB 1.x drives and Windows 2000 to be a bit unreliable (I regularly have to power the drive off and back on again to get it recognized properly). That said, what I like about the so-called pocket-sized external drives is that you can disconnect them and put them somewhere further away from the computer.

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    Re: Backup solution??

    DVD is inadequate for making a full backup.

    I won't invest in DVD writing until the dust settles.

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    Re: Backup solution??

    The system I build (or buy) would have USB 2.

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    Re: Backup solution??

    Sounds good. What I have done is purchased a USB 2.0 Drive kit by ADS Technologies http://www.adstech.com/products/PYRO1394Dr...asp?pid=API-800 for about $50. You can then insert any hard drive into it, plug into a USB port & you are off and running. So simple that it is scarey. <img src=/S/spook.gif border=0 alt=spook width=15 height=15> Once you have made the backup, you can remove the hard drive for save storage & insert another for extra storage or a secondary backup. Swap between systems , etc. Takes about 1 - 2 minutes to change hard drives or unplug & plug into another system. Althrough it is not advertised as a portable; it really can be used as one.

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    Re: Backup solution??

    Thanx.

    Looks like an interesting product.

    However, ADS Tech has a link to a review of their product at Tom's Hardware Guide site.
    That review shows that the ADS product performs poorly compared to prepackaged external drives from Maxtor and Western Digital.

    I wonder if all self-built external drive would suffer from such lower performance?

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    Re: Backup solution??

    The main reason I like it is because I can now go to my junk pile & use some of the old hard drives I have laying around. I was actually considering trashing the smaller ones (4.2 - 20 gig) but now I use them for extra storage.

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    Re: Backup solution??

    Here's the URL for the article, note the performance figures near the end of the article:

    http://www6.tomshardware.com/storage...116/index.html

    I was amazed at the poor performance of the self-built external drives compared with pre prebuilt Maxtor or WD external drives.

    Anybody know what could account for such a difference in performance?

    Here are the URLs for some cases I've found:

    URL for CompuCable product:

    http:////www.compucable.com/firewire...tml#FXU2-EB-35

    URL for ADS Tech Firewire kit:

    http:////www.adstech.com/products/PY...sp?pid=API-800

    URL for ADS Tech USB kit:

    http://www.adstech.com/products/USB_2_Driv...sp?pid=USBX-804

    The WD site states "Designed with Western Digital's 7200 RPM WD Caviar hard drive and a high-speed USB 2.0 bridge, ...".

    Of course, WD might be using a better USB bridge than ADS Tech, I dunno.

    Anybody having an ADS Tech or CompuCable case know what is the chip set controlling te convedrsion from the drive to USB in the case?

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    Re: Backup solution??

    I don't know that that will help, if the problem is in the drive.

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    Re: Backup solution??

    Further to all the wonderful suggestions here, I'd like to throw my recent discovery onto the table.

    For those that haven't seen one, it's a simple USB-IDE adapter with an external PSU which plugs into both the adapter and the IDE device. Works like a charm and allows me to swap between a couple of old HDDs I've got knocking around and add in a CD-RW whenever I want, without the hassle of unscrewing the device from any external casing. I use it primarily on my 240x ThinkPad which doesn't have a built-in CD-ROM/RW. Bit more 'down and dirty' than a neat clean box, but it does the job, and cheap too. <img src=/S/money.gif border=0 alt=money width=17 height=15>

    Here's a thought: A few of these adapters complete with suitable HDDs plugged into a multi port USB hub - would this be a theoretically feasible idea for vast storage capacities? (observing any maximum number of drives limit, of course). i.e. 1 x 80GB as C:, 23 x 80GB labelled D: through to Z: = nearly 2TB??

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    Re: Backup solution??

    Anyone??

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    Re: Backup solution??

    One of my colleagues has tried to put a lot of devices, mostly input devices, on a USB hub and had the weirdest conflicts. But storage is so straightforward, I think it could work. But I certainly haven't tried it myself.

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