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    Data on old versions? (6.0, SP1)

    Should data found on my hard drive for IE 4/5 be retained after updating to the newer version? I understand that info. on IE 5.5 might be needed if it's decided to revert.
    So, I guess my question should be about keeping information on IE 4 (unless I'm wrong of course).
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    Re: Data on old versions? (6.0, SP1)

    Hi, Duch ~

    What type of data and where are you finding it?

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    Re: Data on old versions? (6.0, SP1)

    These were found in Program Files/ Internet Explorer:

    IE4.DLL
    IE40.ASSOC
    IE40.BROWSER UI
    IE40.COMCTL32
    IE40.CONTROLS
    IE40.BROWSER
    IE40.SHELL
    IE40.SHODOC401
    IE40.USER AGENT

    All of the above are folders.

    There are 3 files found in WindowsSystem and 2 in WindowsSystemVCM.
    That's all that appear.
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    Re: Data on old versions? (6.0, SP1)

    You would have to look at each one of those separarely. My general advice is to leave them alone.

    If you look under the hood, IE6 is really just a moderate revision of IE4. However, since Netscape and Microsoft were playing a game of 'one-upmanship', it is called "IE6" and not "IE4.2". So many of the files from IE4 are still used by IE6.

    For example, I have a file called "IE4.dll" that was Created and Modified Thursday, August 29, 2002. Certainly, this file was created for IE6 and not IE4.

    I also have a file in WindowsSystem named "IE4files.inf" that was Created and Modified Saturday, September 14, 2002 -- again, it is unlikely this was created for IE4.

    So, unless you are just dying to find more disk space, I would leave those as they are. If you want to just test it out, simply Rename each file or folder (place an X in front of the name) and see what doesn't work. I would still be reluctant to delete those files.

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    Re: Data on old versions? (6.0, SP1)

    Hi, Duch ~

    Glad you dig the tag <IMG SRC=http://www.krymow.com/images/biggrinpimp.gif>

    After upgrading, I don't see any of those files and all works well so would venture to advise you no longer keep them, but after digging around I have nothing more sound on which to base this.

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    Re: Data on old versions? (6.0, SP1)

    I just checked my work computer, and I only find those folders in a directory for "uninstalling" IE4. Inside each of these folders are TWO files:

    Ainf0000
    Ainf0001

    I will paste another image below, but it is uncanny that the dates of all the Ainf0000 files are 8/27/01 and the dates of Ainf0001 are 10/28/02 -- in ALL of those folders.

    They appear to hold the installation information and registry modifictions, likely used to "un-install" IE. Given the dates of 10/28/02, this is NOT for IE4 but instead for IE6.

    If you are not sure, don't delete them until you are sure...
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    Re: Data on old versions? (6.0, SP1)

    Here is representative view of the Ainf files showing the dates.
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    Re: Data on old versions? (6.0, SP1)

    Well, I'm the adventureous type (get myself in more trouble being that way). I'm going to remove the ones for IE4 and if something happens, I can always get a new copy.
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    Re: Data on old versions? (6.0, SP1)

    I guess you could do what I do to get rid of stuff I'm not a 100% sure about.

    Take a backup of everything you want to get rid of.

    Then move all the struff you want to eliminate to a "junk" folder. If everything continues to work fine for a few days/weeks (dependent on your comfort level), delete the stuff from the "junk" folder. If you have problems, move everything back, or use the backup.

    Again, after a period, if everything is still fine you cen get rid of the backup too.

    PS A search on my IE6 system found no files/folders with "IE4" in their names.
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    Re: Data on old versions? (6.0, SP1)

    I had almost made up my mind to remove the IE4 files, but the more people I hear from, the more unsure I am of doing that. I have a pretty bit drive, in fact, I have two. I'm going to search theKB and see what I can come up with. Not one person I've heard from has IE4 files except poor me.
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    Re: Data on old versions? (6.0, SP1)

    I have checked several computers now, and the only place I find those IE40. folders is in a directory called "Uninstall Information". Therefore, you will like NOT find out that you NEED those files until you decide to UN-install IE6. If you NEVER uninstall IE6, it would be a moot point either way....

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    Re: Data on old versions? (6.0, SP1)

    I have almost the same files, only there are 3 IE4.DLL's. The paths are:

    2 - Program Files Internet Explorer
    1- WindowsWindowsVCM

    Question on the VCM - Are they essential to the O.S. or to IE any version?

    I also have IE4files.inf in Widows System. Properties lists it as Setup Information, Modified on Feb. 16th, 2003. It's a list of IE4 files containing various dll's, ocx's and one for - Prog. Files IE IEXPLORE.EXE.

    The modified dates are completly different. Mine was modified on Sunday, February 16, 2003. But I agree with you, I'm not hurting for space and IE is working just fine. I will leave well enough alone.

    If you will, please answer the question about VCM, and I'll be done with this thread.
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    Re: Data on old versions? (6.0, SP1)

    The "VCM" folder is for the "Version Conflict Manager". My understanding is that this was designed to help avoid problems with conflicting DLL (application extensions), but I really don't think it worked very well and I don't anyone who uses it. In fact it MAY have been designed specifically for users upgrading from Win95 to Win98...

    My impression is that the files in there are JUST for 'storage' and likely are not necessary.

    If you want to read more, check out this: Version Conflict Manager
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    Windows Utilities

    If anyone here REALLY likes, uses, or understands the VCM, I would love to hear about it...

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