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    Virtual Memory (XP Pro)

    <img src=/S/hello.gif border=0 alt=hello width=25 height=29> I am getting the message that my system (256 MB) is low on Virtual Memory. I searched earlier threads but I am not sure exactly how to correct this. <img src=/S/confused.gif border=0 alt=confused width=15 height=20> Attached are screen shots from both drives. Should both drves have paging files? We run graphics programs which take a lot of memory. Would reinstalling programs on the second drive free up the first drive to run XP more efficiently? (A friend's suggestion.)
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    Re: Virtual Memory (XP Pro)

    To fix the immediate problem, let xp manage the pagefile. Just click on system managed size and reboot. There's lots of ways to set up virtual memory, here's one good one: set up a partition on your second hd (hopefully at the beginning of the drive) of somewhat bigger than 1.5x memory. Format the partition and put the pagefile there. You'll get a performance bump by having the pagefile on a separate disk, and having it on it's own partition means it won't get fragmented (as long as you don't use the partition for anything else...)

    You don't need pagefiles on both drives, but it looks like you've set your pagefile too small, which is why you're getting the message.

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    Re: Virtual Memory (XP Pro)

    How much RAM do you have installed?

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    Re: Virtual Memory (XP Pro)

    <img src=/S/hello.gif border=0 alt=hello width=25 height=29>
    I have 256 MG of RAM.
    Is partitioning the hard drive difficult for first timers? I have looked at a few freeware or shareware programs from PCWorld.com but I'm not sure I can do this. I've heard that Partition Magic is the best software but after upgrading to XP 2 weeks ago, I had to replace my scanner (not XP compatible) and upgrade Adobe Acrobat to 5.0. This is getting expensive ...
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    Re: Virtual Memory (XP Pro)

    <img src=/S/hello.gif border=0 alt=hello width=25 height=29>
    Thank you for your response. I did make the change to system settings and I am still getting the same message when I logoff. Is there anything else I could try? I have never partitioned a hard drive before and because this machine is used for business also I have to be very careful. Suggestions?
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    Re: Virtual Memory (XP Pro)

    Well one thing I will say is if you are doing alot of Graphic stuff you need more RAM to make things run smoothly. You should be able to pick up another 256MB fairly cheap and it would do wonders for your system running WinXP. WinXP loves RAM like a child loves candy. Especially if your using alot of graphics. Also the more RAM the less your system uses or needs Virtual Memory. As for Partition magic you can download a 30 day trial version and it is very easy to use. Click here Partition Magic and then click on Try Now.

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    Re: Virtual Memory (XP Pro)

    <img src=/S/hello.gif border=0 alt=hello width=25 height=29> Cowboy,
    Thanks for the suggestion on Partition Magic but when I went to the website, the trial version lets me "experience" <img src=/S/laugh.gif border=0 alt=laugh width=15 height=15> the software but not make any changes. Back to the drawing board! I'll check into your suggestion about increasing RAM.
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    Re: Virtual Memory (XP Pro)

    Hi Cherie,
    You do get some performance bump with the pagefile in it's own partition, but I don't think you have to go through with that, particularly since you seem kinda unsure of doing it.
    What I would do:
    1.Change virtual memory on C drive to "no pagefile", click "set".
    2.Change E drive to "system managed" pagefile, click "set".
    3.Reboot
    4.Open windows explorer & check for pagefile.sys file in the root folder of the C drive. It will probably still be there. Delete it.
    5.Same as number 4 but in the E drive, make sure pagefile.sys is there and what size it is.
    6.Go to windows "prefetch folder", delete the entire contents. (not the folder) It will recreate files on the next reboot.
    7. Reboot. (fun isn't it?) <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>

    Also if you do a lot of graphics work, I would add at least another 256MB of RAM as long as the motherboard allows it. This will make a big difference in performance with graphics as cowboy said.

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    Re: Virtual Memory (XP Pro)

    Yeah, do that. I'm surprised that the low on virtual memory message still appears after changing to system managed. Is that from not clearing the prefetch folder?

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    Re: Virtual Memory (XP Pro)

    <img src=/S/hello.gif border=0 alt=hello width=25 height=29> Bob I certainly wish I had checked e-mail and got your reply <span style="background-color: #FFFF00; color: #000000; font-weight: bold">before</span hi> I decided to use Computer Management Windows Interface to partition the second hard drive. I thought everything went well; I sized the first partition at 384 MG and created the second partition for the rest of the drive. I went in the advanced tab on virtual memory and changed the C: drive to no pagefile, E: drive to set pagefile to 384 MG and the G: drive is set to no pagefile. The problem began when I searched C: to delete the pagefile and the only file I found was pagefileconfig.sys. Do I delete this file? When I search the E: drive for the pagefile.sys file, it's not there. What do I do? I didn't think I should delete the contents of the prefetch folder until I found the pagefile.sys in E.
    Thanks to you and to everyone who has been so incredibly helpful. Two weeks with XP and I am aging quickly! <img src=/S/hairout.gif border=0 alt=hairout width=31 height=23> <img src=/S/doh.gif border=0 alt=doh width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/groan.gif border=0 alt=groan width=16 height=15>
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    Re: Virtual Memory (XP Pro)

    Cherie don't feel bad I had the same problem once trying to move my page file to a different drive. I ended up having to set the page file MIN And MAX at the same number or it would not except it. But after that it was fine. And as for deleting the old page file from C: drive , All I could find was the same file( pagefileconfig.sys ) you found and I was afraid to delete it. So i made a copy of it and moved it to a floppy and then deleted it and when I rebooted it was right back were I had found it the first time, so I gave up on deleting the old pagefile.

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    Re: Virtual Memory (XP Pro)

    <img src=/S/hello.gif border=0 alt=hello width=25 height=29> Cowboy and everyone else who has helped! I found the pagefile.sys when I enabled view of system files. <img src=/S/blush.gif border=0 alt=blush width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/doh.gif border=0 alt=doh width=15 height=15>
    Sorry about that one! <img src=/S/stupidme.gif border=0 alt=stupidme width=30 height=30> I will ignore the pagefileconfig.dbs gladly.
    I know my name has been on the new post multiple times in the last couple of days and I really want to thank everyone who has responded. <img src=/S/thankyou.gif border=0 alt=thankyou width=40 height=15> Now it's time to reinstall programs on the new non-file partition! <img src=/S/groan.gif border=0 alt=groan width=16 height=15>

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    Re: Virtual Memory (XP Pro)

    Thanks Cherie I did what you said And what do you know, there was that old pagefile.sys on C: drive and I deleted it. I love this Forum. Seems like the more you try to help someone the more you learn yourself. <img src=/S/cheers.gif border=0 alt=cheers width=30 height=16>

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    Re: Virtual Memory (XP Pro)

    Cherie,
    Well, I think you are getting there,almost! Since you went and repartitioned...fine, no problem, just a lot of extra work. You say you found a file called pagefileconfig.sys? Never heard of it. I would try to temporarily rename it to Gatesfile.sys or some other such thing. If all is OK then delete it. Don't worry about no pagefile.sys in the E. Go ahead and delete the contents of the windows | prefetch folder. You can always do this at any time. If you do a search on prefetch folder, you will see much discussion on this. I know I had real crazy troubles with the prefetch folder. I now keep it in a minimum state with a utility I found or you can just keep it current by cleaning it out once in a while. Keep at it. <img src=/S/wink.gif border=0 alt=wink width=15 height=15>

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    Re: Virtual Memory (XP Pro)

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    Is that from not clearing the prefetch folder?
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    I think so.

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