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    Multiple Blue Screen of Deaths

    Here's my setup. ASUS A7A 266, Socket A T-Bird 1.33, 1024MB SDRAM(133), NVIDIA GeForce TI200, Sound Blaster Live, 2-60gig HD(Maxtor,Western Digital), Windows XP (all updated).

    Also, the CPU temp is 74 degrees C and motherboard is 43 degrees C, which are both within tolerances.

    The Ram is new, about a month old.

    Here's the problem, the computer would frequently restart, so I changed out the RAM and changed my setting in the control panel so it wouldn't restart anymore. Now I get the BSOD instead of it restarting.

    It happens right after I restart the computer or when I'm checking e-mail or running a program. It happens very frequently, about 10-15 times a night.

    Here a 2-typical BSODs:

    Page_Fault_In_NonPaged_Area
    Stop: 0x00000050 (oxFB488687, 0x00000000, 0x804EDCE7, 0x00000000)

    IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
    ***STOP: Ox0000000A(0xE7A00008, 0x00000002, 0x00000000, 0x804EDCE7)

    I get a driver conflict message after XP boots up but I can't find what it driver is causing the problem.
    I replaced the video card using my other computer(NVIDIA GeFOrce 4 TI4600) and I still have the same problem.

    I did check out event ID, but I need more help to get through it.

    Any ideas???

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    Re: Multiple Blue Screen of Deaths

    Scott,

    The following suggestions are specific to Stop 0x50 errors.

    If you added new hardware recently, remove and replace the hardware to determine if it is causing or contributing to the problem. Run diagnostics software supplied by the hardware manufacturer to determine if the component has failed.
    Stop 0x50 messages can also occur after installing faulty drivers or system services. If the file name is listed, you need to disable, remove, or roll back that driver. If not, disable the recently installed service or application to determine if this resolves the error. If this does not resolve the problem, contact the hardware manufacturer for updates. Using updated drivers and software is especially important for network interface cards, video adapters, backup programs, multimedia applications, antivirus scanners, and CD mastering tools. If an updated driver is not available, attempt to use a driver from a similar device in the same family. For example, if printing to a Model 1100C printer causes Stop 0x50 errors, using a printer driver meant for a Model 1100A or Model 1000 might temporarily resolve the problem.
    For more information about Stop 0x50 messages, see the Microsoft Knowledge Base link on the Web Resources page at http://www.microsoft.com/windows/reskits/webresources. Search using keywords winnt, 0x00000050, and 0x50
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    Re: Multiple Blue Screen of Deaths

    Read This Click Here
    You can go to Start, Run and type MSCONFIG, Startup tab and uncheck everything but system tray, reboot, a box will come up check " don't show me this message again" and see what happens. If that fixes the problem, go back in to MSCONFIG and enable one thing at a time rebooting each time. Remember the last thing you enabled each time untill the problem starts again and then you will know what service { software } was the problem.
    You can also do the same thing for Hardware using Device Manager to disable certain things one at a time to see what piece of hardware might be the problem. From what you said you did using a different Video Card you may be able to rule out the Video Card as a problem { Key word being maybe. } Do you remember the last piece of Hardware Or Software you installed before the problem started?

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    Re: Multiple Blue Screen of Deaths

    Thanks,
    I will try the MSCONFIG first and give results tomorrow. I have also tried to repair XP and it always gives me a BSOD. It seems to me the system gets overloaded and shutsdown which is why if the MSCONFIG doesn't work then maybe one of the new RAM chips are bad.

    Also, how do I find out what device is associated with those STOP: addresses. I have the numbers, just don't know where they go.

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    Re: Multiple Blue Screen of Deaths

    Give us a list and let us see what we can find out. Sometimes those numbers are not hardware specific.

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    Re: Multiple Blue Screen of Deaths

    As Cowboy said, it may a process of elimination to track it down. Try stripping it down to the bare minimum and add one device at a time till it starts.
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    Re: Multiple Blue Screen of Deaths

    I'm with Viking, but I also think you have a two fold problem. Besides Memory, I think you have a driver thats causing some problems { trying to share the same memory address. One thing you could try first . Restart and press F8 Key and when that screen comes up choose " Last Known Good Configuration " and push Enter.
    If that doesn't work do what Viking said. Unplug Printers, USB devices, Everything you don't need. Bare minimum. And then try restarting. If that doesn't work, start in Safe mode and disable { from Device Manager } things like CD-ROMS and CD-RWs. Then restart.

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    Re: Multiple Blue Screen of Deaths

    Hi!

    I have exactly the same Motherboard and processor, and I killed 256Mb of DDR RAM after about 3 weeks regular use.

    I'm not an expert so I don't know exactly why this happened, but here is my best guess. I was having all sorts of wierd driver issues on start up that I was putting down to updating my video drivers, but towards the end I got stuck into a cycle of rebooting - windows starting but not recognising any drivers - having to install all drivers - requiring a re-boot and then starting the process all over again. The terminal stage of my problem was when the HD wasn't even recognised at start-up. That problem gave me days on end using a friends computer for a hour or two at night looking for help! Eventually, some message board pointed me to check my RAM and whn I removed one offending stick - instant cure!

    I don't know how many sticks of RAM you have, but to troubleshoot, remove them all and replace them one at a time, with only one stick present and see if the machine even POSTs. There is a section in the manual on the beep codes for bad memory. I tried a memory tester in advance of this step, I forget which one, but it didn't pick up the errors! The bad stick on its own shouldn't allow a good POST.

    I would also be very concerned about the temperatures you are quoting for the CPU and motherboard. I know that they do not give alerts on the ASUS utility provided, but I think I picked up on another newsgroup that athlons shouldn't go much above 50 degrees C and that motherboards should be around 30 degrees C.

    I attributed my dead RAM to heat and installed an extra case fan. It makes the machine a noise monster, but the temperatures did come down from late 60's to about 55 for the CPU and high 30's to 30 for the Mobo on the ASUS utility. I haven't had a problem since.

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    Re: Multiple Blue Screen of Deaths

    Hi Scott,

    Just like John, I'm sure your CPU is running too hot. Not saying that this is the cause of your problems, but it may be worth looking in to. Although 74

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    Re: Multiple Blue Screen of Deaths

    I have to agree with the folks that suggest that it's the temp of the CPU causing problems.

    Although 74 is within specs for Athlon's it is pushing the upper limit (85 C IIRC)

    Get the CPU cooler. The very first thing I would do (and just did on my system) open the case and vacuum it out completely. Especially the fan's vent holes, not forgetting the ones on the power supply. The next thing to do it take the CPU's heat sink off and clean that. Make sure there is no dust on the Heastsink fins.

    That should help.
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    Re: Multiple Blue Screen of Deaths

    Okay, here's some results from last night.

    Its definitely not the RAM. I removed both 512MB chips of SDRAM and replaced them with a 512MB DDR RAM stick and I still got the same problems.

    I switched out the video card already, so we know its not that.

    I removed all of the start-up options on MSCONFIG, and still got BSOD and different points so I could not pinpoint 1 or 2 drivers that are causing the problem. I do believe the sound card maybe the driver error reponse on XP, but that is different matter than the what's causing the BSODs.

    I too was concerned with the CPU temperature at first, but since it was within tolerances, I decided to look into other areas. I will go ahead and clean up the CPU and fatten up the heat sink and see what that does.

    I already dusted out the computer last week and I do have the latest BIOS version 1011 on this board. This motherboard used to be notorious for reporting false temp readings on the 1004 BIOS version.

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    Re: Multiple Blue Screen of Deaths

    Did you unplug everything, printers,USB and ETC.?

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    Re: Multiple Blue Screen of Deaths

    Final Answer to this problem...

    It was 2 problems, the temperature was too high for the CPU. I replaced the heatsink and put on a 7200CPM fan and now the CPU temps are about 48C. The BSOD is gone but the driver problem was still there.

    Swapped the sound card from another computer, no more problem. I did test out the old sound card on another machine and it worked fine so I suspect the driver was corrupted.

    Thanks for all the help!!!!!

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    Re: Multiple Blue Screen of Deaths

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    Re: Multiple Blue Screen of Deaths

    Just out of curiousity,
    What sound card was it?
    I have a machine that "locks up" no matter hat OS (Windows 98SE, ME, 2k, XP)
    I have narrowed it down to sound or Hard drive.
    I am also. keeping a list of sound cards that are being problem children.
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