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    big, big pages (2000/SP-3)

    Using a laptop with a 1400x1050 resolution, I have attempted making a web site using FP 2000. When I view the site on an 800x600 resolution, the page is huge!

    What will it take to get the web site to "fit" the screen size of various viewers? How can the site be made to look as good on an 800x600 monitor as it does on a 1400x1050 monitor (and other sizes for that matter)?

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    Re: big, big pages (2000/SP-3)

    What are the issues: text size? graphics? margins/horizontal scrolling?

    On text, you can use relative sizing to allow the user's settings to take effect.

    On graphics, life is hard.

    On margins, by default, the browser will wrap body and

    tag text. If you place text in tables that have fixed sizes (e.g., points rather than percentages), you can control the width - and make people with different screen resolutions miserable.

    Does his help, or can you get more specific about the issues?

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    Re: big, big pages (2000/SP-3)

    Hmm, it's a math problem: how do you balance all the different measurements assigned to the different table cells?

    <table border=1 bordercolor="black" bgcolor="white" cellpadding=3 cellspacing=2 width=100%><tr><td valign=top width=1%>1% of total table width</td><td valign=top width="24" bordercolor=blue>24 pixels</td><td valign=top>undetermined
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    <table border=1 bordercolor="red" bgcolor="yellow" cellpadding=3 cellspacing=2 width=100%><tr><td valign=top width=82% bordercolor="black">82% of total table width</td><td valign=top width=18% bordercolor="black">18% of total table width
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    <table border=1 bordercolor="black" bgcolor="white" cellpadding=3 cellspacing=2 width="210"><tr><td valign=top bordercolor="blue">Topica Subscribe
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    Re: big, big pages (2000/SP-3)

    Yes, margins/horizontal scrolling is one way to describe what I've been experiencing. I can see the whole page from my laptop without horizontal scroll bars; however, machines with different resolutions do not.

    How could I make use of relative sizing for text? I've tried using tables to keep things "tidy," but seem to come up short.

    Hope this helps clear up a few things.

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    Re: big, big pages (2000/SP-3)

    Thanks for the prompt reply; unfortunately, all answers to any math problems I encounter come up as purple, Kansas, or all of the above <img src=/S/confused.gif border=0 alt=confused width=15 height=20>

    You asked how I balanced all the different measurements assigned to the different table cells, and I all I can say is that I've come to rely too much on the WYSIWYG offering of FrontPage.

    It was easy to shrink the width of these posts in IE 6, so what does it take to get the same effect in what you saw on our site? How, exactly, would I go about putting the content in a new table that wouldn't contain the fixed width subscribe area?

    Thanks for the tip on the photo - didn't realize it's size. I'll reduce it to see what happens. As to using a script to resize it so as to fit the viewer's screen resolution, wow, that'll be a new area in which to venture (i.e., 404)

    Can I edit the way the theme works? Wish I knew how - that may be part of the reason I came to this forum: to get real advice on how to make a Microsoft product do what I need it to do.

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    Re: big, big pages (2000/SP-3)

    Scott, I don't use MS Themes, so I think I will have to punt on a lot of your question. However, regarding the tables, you should be able to move your own content outside of the nest of tables I diagrammed. If you're having trouble finding the table with your content, try a fat border and a large cellspacing. That should make it more obvious.

    P.S. I suspect very few people use such a high resolution as you are using. If you test at 1024x768, I think you will hit the average a bit better.

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    Re: big, big pages (2000/SP-3)

    Seems that the MS Themes cause more headache than help, eh?

    One day I'd like to learn how to move content out of tables so it will be where I'd like it to be; however, my grasp of hand coded HTML is limited.

    Say, how do I test at 1024x768 without changing my desktop resolution? Is there another way?

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    Re: big, big pages (2000/SP-3)

    This is from 2002, but I'm fairly sure 2000 is the same:
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    Re: big, big pages (2000/SP-3)

    Thanks for jumping in, Leif! That tip worked great!
    <img src=/S/bravo.gif border=0 alt=bravo width=16 height=30>

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