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    Imminent Hard disk failure

    hi All,

    today i noticed the following ominous message in my system event log from march the 12th:

    The driver has detected that device DeviceHarddisk0DR0 has predicted that it will fail. Immediately back up your data and replace your hard disk drive. A failure may be imminent.

    is there anything i can do to diagnose and repair?

    full disk scan reports no errors. but i keep receiving a warning at startup before XP boots that "dell's hd diagnose system has noticed the hd is working outside its parameters....

    hd is a maxtor 98196H8 80 GB in a dell 8100 system. backups already made.

    thanks, pieter.

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    Re: Imminent Hard disk failure

    I'd contact Dell support and see what they say. If your PC is still under warranty they should replace the drive. If not they may still have some good advice about the veracity of the messages. I'd also start pricing a replacement drive.

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    Re: Imminent Hard disk failure

    Here's my guess: it's like that red light on your car's dashboard. You've gone the number of miles recommended before going in for your next service. In addition to vacuuming out the dust, a hard drive replacement apparently is recommended at this service interval. I wonder when it will tell you your PC is obsolete and you need to go to www.dell.com to order a new one?

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    Re: Imminent Hard disk failure

    Gosh I like Google, did some searching and found this page describing the diagnostic process and there is some information to be found at maxtor knowledge base . Quite an interesting feature.

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    Re: Imminent Hard disk failure

    thanks All for the advice and the links.

    in the mean time i've downloaded a diagnostics program from maxtor's site (powermax) and this seem to indicate the problem is genuine (and not a call from mother dell). there's a remote chance the more elaborate tests the program provides will succeed in repairing my disk, but i'm just going to wait and see what happens for the moment, since this has no impact for the moment on performance and file storage integrity afaics. (still more than a year of warranty)

    my next 'puter will definitely be self assembed again, those brand computers are a maintain, upgrade and security nightmare, their performance mediocre at best. ok dell is cheap, i'll grant em that.

    greetings,

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    Re: Imminent Hard disk failure

    Pieter,
    Have you looked into Steve Gibson's Spinrite 5.0? A while back I was having strange problems with a Maxtor HD, erratically not being recognized or recognized as a completely different drive. Maxtor tech people advised that the HD was failing and I should think of replacing it. I ran Spinrite on it and haven't had a bit of trouble since. No alarming error messages or anything. Spinrite DEEP scans your entire HD multiple times per sector, then rewrites the track to refresh it, all without any loss of data. Steve has had this prog out for many years and it is his "flagship" offering and is inexpensive. It works !
    Check it out at http://grc.com/default.htm along with other GOOD things he has at his site. <img src=/S/clever.gif border=0 alt=clever width=15 height=15>

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    Re: Imminent Hard disk failure

    thanks Bob!

    unfortunately, this won't work for me as i'm using NTFS on win XP. nevertheless, the grc site is highly recommendable!

    greetings,

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    Re: Imminent Hard disk failure

    Download the diagnostics at Maxtor's web site.

    The message likely means that the spare sectors are (almost) fully used.

    Scandisk might not catch errors if the sectors have already been remapped.

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    Re: Imminent Hard disk failure

    just an update.
    one week ago, the problem just disappeared - no more warnings for over a week now - how smart can smart get!
    it'll probably come back to stab me in the back i guess.
    i was wondering if standby puts more strain on the hd. since i received the warnings, i have powering down the computer every night in stead of going in standby mode.

    greetings,

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    Re: Imminent Hard disk failure

    You need to run the drive diagnostics.


    A number of years ago, I sensed odd behavior with hte drive I received with a PC.
    Then it suddenly went bad, fortunately, I had done a full backup the day before.

    Run the drive diagnostics.

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    Re: Imminent Hard disk failure

    Pieter,

    I had the same problem with a laptop. The imminent falure erro message came and went for probably 4 months.

    One day, all of a sudden it went. No warning, just gone.

    Get it out of there and replaced otherwise it WILL get you.
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    Re: Imminent Hard disk failure

    <hr>The imminent falure error message came and went for probably 4 months.<hr>
    <big><big>NO</big></big> warning <img src=/S/question.gif border=0 alt=question width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/question.gif border=0 alt=question width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/question.gif border=0 alt=question width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/question.gif border=0 alt=question width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/question.gif border=0 alt=question width=15 height=15>

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    Re: Imminent Hard disk failure

    Ok. Point taken. <img src=/S/sigh.gif border=0 alt=sigh width=15 height=15>

    What I meant was that the HD didn't start acting funny like thrashing about or anything like that, with the exception of the warning.

    It just failed.
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    Re: Imminent Hard disk failure

    <P ID="edit" class=small>(Edited by Bowlie on 10-Jun-03 20:41. Just checked out your Bio and saw who you worked for ...)</P>So what do you do when you hear a fire alarm sound? Turn on the TV so you can watch it on Global or CTV?

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    Re: Imminent Hard disk failure

    Well, actually my TV is on all the time when I'm at work, so I don't have to turn it on <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15> Nothing like having a 21" TV on you desk.

    When I hear a fire alarm, I don't watch TV, I grab my stuff and head out of the building like I'm supposed to do. <img src=/S/rofl.gif border=0 alt=rofl width=15 height=15>
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