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    Trying Mozilla (Mozilla 1.2.1)

    I received a copy of Moz and decided to start with & give the Mail a whirl. I am becoming increasingly frustrated <img src=/S/aflame.gif border=0 alt=aflame width=16 height=16> as it doesn't seem to do all the things that are touted by Moz fans nor the things it should.

    I am sure my frustration stems from the fact that I am Moz ignorant with the way it works and am impeded by using & holding knowledge of IE exclusively since its release.
    1. <LI>Where is the Outbox? I created mail (offline) and hit send and it tried to connect instead<LI>I am offline and have mail to be checked every 10 minutes, but every 2 minutes or so a box pops up saying unable to connect<LI>When I pull a composed message out of the draft folder, it changed to text mail and undid all my HTML formatting despite the fact HTML is enabled<LI> If I have a message in the draft folder and hit the 'Send' button, nothing seems to happen despite the proper settings for the account and mail downloads
    It would be easier to give up, but I thought I should give this an honest try and hoped a few Moz fans might be willing to have the patience to help. <img src=/S/thankyou.gif border=0 alt=thankyou width=40 height=15>

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    Re: Trying Mozilla (Mozilla 1.2.1)

    I'm not an expert - just a proponent, but I'll try what I can. I don't compose messages in HTML with Mozilla, so I don't know what that problem involves. Outbox = Sent. When you install Moz, and create that first email account, it should have created an email folder called "Unsent Messages." While you are in compose mode, under the File command, there is a selection to "Send Later." I don't use it, ever, but I would think Moz would park the message in the Unsent Messages folder. Check your settings for the attachment. If you compose messages and store them in the Drafts folder, nothing is supposed to happen until you open the message again and THEN hit the send button. Regarding the dialing, I can't answer that either since I'm not on dialup. But, wouldn't it be somewhere in your Internet Options settings? I don't think there's anything in Mozilla about dialing, except maybe proxies. Don't really know since I've never dug into the topic.
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    Re: Trying Mozilla (Mozilla 1.2.1)

    Hi, Al ~

    I was hoping at least you & Ken might get involved - thank you. First thing I did was upgrade to 1.3 since there was an incomplete help file with 1.2.1. I did as you suggested and used the 'Send Later' under 'File' in compose mode. The message disappeared. <img src=/S/scratch.gif border=0 alt=scratch width=25 height=29> I did, however, find a newly created folder 'Unsent Messages' with my unsent message in it, but it was in a whole new subset of folders called 'Local Folders'. What are these? And why did my message go there rather than under my one and only account?

    You made mention about dialing. I have no dialing problems. What is wrong is there is a setting somewhere that is telling Mozilla to connect to my server all the time. I did check my settings per your attachment and have them both set to 'Do not...', yet every few minutes I get a message popping up reporting 'Unable to connect to server krymow.com' when I am offline. It is trying to connect every few minutes even when offline even though I have it set to check every 10 minutes. Also, when I am online, it picks up messages whenever it feels like it despite the 10 minute settings.
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    Re: Trying Mozilla (Mozilla 1.2.1)

    Hi Bruce

    I guess I'm with Al.......I'm no expert with Mozilla......Just a satisfied user as far as my simple requirements go.
    All the apparent problems with security when using Outlook and IE, and the constant attempts by hackers to make more trouble, make me very wary of using Those two.

    I have two email accounts set up, which both work fine for me. However, I compose a message and send it....I don't use "Drafts" nor "Send Later", nor do I allow any program to auto-dial.

    Having said this....if you open your "drafts" and double click on the message you want to send (alternatvely you can single click it and click on the "edit" button on the upper right of the draft window), it will be opened in the "compose" window where you can edit it or click on "send" to send as is.

    Local Folders?....I don't know....I don't use them.
    Frequent dialup....can't help you here either......But, Check for "Preferences" and/or "Options" in each of the available windows (eg: inbox, compose, drafts, etc.) as some have different options and some will override the same option in a different window...This is probably your HTML to text problem.

    Hope something in here helps...Got to go feed the ponies!!

    Have a Great day!!!
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    Re: Trying Mozilla (Mozilla 1.2.1)

    Hi, Ken ~

    I thought I would give the Moz browser and the mail a try for the very reasons you suggest, security. No problem sending now out of the drafts folder - thanks.

    The local folders...you don't have them on your machine? I didn't set them up - they appear automatically after each of 3 installations. You and Al both mention 'dial-up' and not sure why - not having an issue there. Checked each single folder's settings and all are set the same and nothing indicates connection outside of what I've set for ten minutes which it ignores anyway. Also, I have set each folder to hide the preview pane, but this is ignored as well (browser does same thing with tab feature). I have timed out the mail-server checking and it comes in random anywhere from 1.5 to 5.5 minutes despite the settings.

    I would like to use Moz, but frankly it seems I will spend less time and energy just being security conscious with a proven application. I can see why no one uses Moz since there seems to be 101 reasons Mozilla doesn't work right, even by their very own admission, and there are many hassles with the browser as well as the mail client.

    Thanks for your help guys <img src=/S/thankyou.gif border=0 alt=thankyou width=40 height=15> but it looks like it might be time to cut my losses and dump this dog.

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    Re: Trying Mozilla (Mozilla 1.2.1)

    <hr>but it looks like it might be time to cut my losses and dump this dog.<hr>
    Gee... and here I am (at this moment), using Red Hat 8.0 for the OS, Mozilla for the browser, and wondering can it get any better???

    I also am not an expert on Mozilla (or any other program for that matter), but I continue to use I like what it does, and for the most part, how it does it.
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    Re: Trying Mozilla (Mozilla 1.2.1)

    Hi, Chris ~

    I was hoping to join the ranks of the few who do in fact enjoy what Moz has to offer. I didn't need expert advice, really, just some cues for the basics to get it wrangled to a decent point of operation, but unfortunately others have been unable to do this as well <img src=/S/sad.gif border=0 alt=sad width=15 height=15>

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    Re: Trying Mozilla (Mozilla 1.2.1)

    Until you said "connect to my server," I didn't realize that I had misunderstood what you said in the initial post! Sorry 'bout dat, I thought you were saying it's trying to dial. Well, sorry you don't like it Bruce, but I guess that's life! Sounds like maybe you're NOT really offline when it keeps trying to reach your mail server.. Just for the heck of it, have you looked under the FILE command to make sure you're really offline? I don't do that very often, but when I do, like for troubleshooting or something, I've not had the message you refer to.

    Yeah, the Local Folders thing is created by the installer. I guess the designers had in mind that if you have multiple email accounts setup, as I do, you could be wanting to compose multiple messages for later transmission. So, they store that stuff in the Unsent Messages of Local Folders until you (or your settings) say to send them.

    Anyway, to each his own.....

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    Re: Trying Mozilla (Mozilla 1.2.1)

    <P ID="edit" class=small>(Edited by KTYorke on 20-Mar-03 15:29. to make the link live. See the 1-Click TagPanel for more neat options))</P>http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/csg/faqs/imap/mozillaSetup/

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