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    Office XP Small Business (SP1)

    I just acquired a new laptop. It's gots lots nice stuff that my old one lacked. It came with Office XP Small Business. I had thought that Small Business had PowerPoint as one of its components, however, I was apparently incorrect.

    I note that purchasing PowerPoint alone is surprisingly expensive. I'm wondering if I can install the PowerPoint from my Office 2000 Pro without upsetting the applecart. I have the CD, but am no longer using the program. I have Office XP Pro, but that's activated on my main office PC. I don't think I can take that PowerPoint.

    Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks a lot.

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    Re: Office XP Small Business (SP1)

    You may be able to use your office copy:

    302878 - Frequently Asked Questions about Microsoft Product Activation
    <hr>The underlying principles of Microsoft's product licenses have not changed. Microsoft's EULAs have always stipulated the number of computers on which the product can be installed. MPA does not change that. For Office XP, primary users can also install one copy of the product on a portable computer for their exclusive use.<hr>

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    Re: Office XP Small Business (SP1)

    I'm in nearly exactly the same situation. What stopped me from going ahead were several warnings that installing the prior version would probably overwrite some newer XP files.
    Did you try it? Did it work for you?

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    Re: Office XP Small Business (SP1)

    I looked around and found that BUY.COM has an upgrade version of PowerPoint for $94. So I decided to just order that. Woody had a comment in a recent issue (the current one I think) to the effect that combining applications with different versions of Office can be problematic. The problem, as I thought it through, is that PowerPoint is the one application that when it screws up is likely to do it in public!! I therefore decided that it would be a false economy to put my 2000 version in the XP system.

    In preveous years I have combined applications between Office 97 and 2000. However, after what Woody said, plus I'd heard similar things to which you allude to, I just decided to go ahead.

    My earlier searches for PowerPoint were finding copies in the range of $200-$300. Just too much. But the upgrade version is much less.

    Good Luck!

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    Re: Office XP Small Business (SP1)

    Now I'm wondering, although it's probably too late.

    In my other message I made reference to Woody's latest Office article:
    http://www.woodyswatch.com/office/ar...te.asp?current.

    Do you have any thoughts on this?
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    Re: Office XP Small Business (SP1)

    Bill and Bob--

    You absolutely can use your Power Point from 2000 with your Office XP Small Business. Small Business XP as you know comes with Publisher, but it leaves out PowerPoint. To get PowerPoint from your 2000Pro onto your new laptop, just put in the CD; Opt for the "Custom Install" radio button, and select Powerpoint. As for as activation, you are allowed to install Office 2000 or Office XP onto one additional machine as contrasted to Win XP which is one installation to one machine. I just called Microsoft and confirmed this they said you can with no problems. I also called Tech Support at Microcenter who said this is the only way you do this.
    I put a lot of stock in Woody's newsletters, so I'll search them to see what they say but Microsoft was firm that you could. You can call their support number and probably hear the same thing without using an incident.

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    Re: Office XP Small Business (SP1)

    I have been able to talk to a few people who have done exactly what you want to do without any problem whatsoever. You are not mixing it with any other version of Power Point, so I don't see why not. I did read Woody's latest WOW--and would like to ask him specifically if there is any problem with installing a 2000PowerPoint into SBE XP--I'd bet there isn't. I suspect Woody might be talking about mixing several components with the same components on later editions and also trying to install from older versions than the previous one.

    I put this question up on the MSN PowerPoint newsgroup to get some confirmation and I did. It was answered by Echo Swinford, one of Microsoft's Power Point MVP's a few hours ago--and I also was curious as to whether you could then download the free Producer which has enhancement features for PowerPoint for 2000 (you can't put Producer into PP 2000--it needs PP 2002 and Win 2K or Win XP.) Her website for PowerPoint is Echo's Voice and here's how she answered:
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    "Generally speaking, yes. But check your EULA on the Office 2000
    applications to ensure that you have a version of Office that allows
    installation on one desktop and one laptop. Some versions (academic,
    OEM, etc.) are also "one machine only."

    If you do indeed have that option, then yes, you'd run a custom install
    to add PPT from the 2000 install CDs.
    1) Can you get PowerPoint onto the laptop by just
    > selecting it on a custom install from the 2000CD?

    Yes.
    2) Are there any
    > activation issues?

    I can't remember, to tell the truth. I think there weren't at first, but
    ISTR that some of the O2k CDs that shipped later in the product cycle
    might have had some type of activation or something.

    > Also can you download the free Producer to the
    > PowerPoint 2000 or is Producer confined to use in PowerPoint 2002 or Office
    > XP with PowerPoint 2002 in it?

    Producer needs PPT 2002 (aka PPT XP) and also either Windows 2000 or
    Windows XP."

    So if you have Office 2000 Pro you can definitely Custom install PowerPoint into SBE XP. As far as Activation, that should be no problem for you either but note that's because you have Office 2000Pro. With OEM Office, the EULA won't allow installation on another computer. Here's Microsoft's answer for it at Office XP FAQ's:
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    "Can I install my copy of Office XP on my home computer and my laptop?

    A. Yes. According to the End User License for Microsoft Software, you can install and use your retail copy of Office XP on a single desktop computer and on your laptop, for your exclusive use. However, this does not apply to Office XP product licenses acquired with the purchase of a computer. These original equipment manufacturer (OEM) licenses are single-use licenses that cannot be transferred to another desktop computer or laptop. To learn more about activation policies, visit the Microsoft Product Activation page."
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    SMBP

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    Re: Office XP Small Business (SP1)

    I sincerely appreciate your delving into this question. I had not thought to check the EULA and just assumed that it was similar to WindowsXP: use on only one PC. The EULA for Office XP on my desktop allows (as you indicated) installation on an additional portable PC if used by and for the same individual.

    Accordingly, I cancelled my order for PowerPoint 2002 from BUY.COM and am installing the PowerPoint from my Office XP Pro on the laptop. Based on your info and the EULA, there should be no reason why it won't be fine.

    Again, thank you very much for efforts. I think you saved me about $100!

    Sincerely,

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