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    Recording CD-RW's

    (I am not sure what category this should go in, so I put it here...)

    OK, believe it or not I am still just figuring out how to use this thing. I feel like my father trying to program his VCR...

    I have mastered recording CD-R disks. Record once. Screw up. Throw it out.

    I am an expert at this now. I am having a contest to see who gets more disks in my trash can -- me or AOL.

    But what about CD-RW disks? I have an HP CD-writer cd16 and it has the option to use "DLA" (Drive Letter Access) -- which I also understand. This makes the CD-RW disk just like another drive on your box. Easy. No problem.

    BUT... if I decide to 'record' a CD-RW disk, how to I change something on it? If I try to make a single file modification, I am told that the disk is "Read Only" -- but I can find no easy way to modify that. Do I have to erase the entire disk and re-record the whole thing?

    OK, if I have to erase the whole disk, how do I do that? If I simply select everything I click "Delete", I get slapped with the Access Denied warning box. Do I need to "Format" the disk to erase it??

    Thank you.

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    Re: Recording CD-RW's

    Hi R2

    What is the software you're using?
    I'm using Adaptec Direct CD and can read, write, move, delete, copy, paste, etc. from within Windows Explorer....Direct CD has to tb running.
    A major restriction with Direct CD is that it must be running on any computer used to read or write to the CD created with it as it uses its own CD format.

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    Re: Recording CD-RW's

    R2, further to Ken's comments -

    DirectCD and similar apps (Ahead's InCD et al) use packet writing to write to CD-RW media. You have to format the disc first, and use the associated program to access it. Nero Burning ROM can erase CD-RW discs, and both the formatting and erasing process takes a bit of time - enough for you to run a few errands, in my experience. Sadly there's no native support in any Windows OS for using CD-RWs for this purpose, so you'll have another app running if you want to make use of it.

    I may not be the best person to offer advice on this, as my preferred use for CD-RW discs is to use them for backups and home studio recordings, and erase them after a period of time (as opposed to a 650MB floppy). Keep in mind too that formatting will reduce the available space since the file system has to be written to the disc.
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    Re: Recording CD-RW's

    I have found for the cost, about $.14 or less to <img src=/S/free.gif border=0 alt=free width=30 height=15>, that the CD-R are all I use. I have made only 2 coasters, and any CD burned can be read by any other CD reader.

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    Re: Recording CD-RW's

    I concur with Dave. You can get high-quality CD-Rs free or almost free from about any store that sells them. They are easier to work with, hassle-free & disposable.

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    Re: Recording CD-RW's

    All good points. I think sticking with CD-R's is a great idea -- and you can buy them by the 100's.

    The software is from HP -- but by "Veritas". The "DLA" (Drive Letter Access) sounds exactly like "Direct CD" -- including the fact that the disk cannot be read by my original CD-ROM device. I only have about 7 CD-RW disks and I will probably just keep them around and use them with "DLA". For most 'burning' of disks for storage, I think I will stick with CD-R's.

    Thanks for the advice. Anyone ever try appending data to a previously written CD-R? Should be possible, correct? That would give you different "Volumes" on the same disk, I believe -- but I have never tried it.

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    Re: Recording CD-RW's

    R2 - as long as you don't close the session when you write to a CD-R, you can append after it. Some drives have difficulty reading multisession discs, but these are mostly older drives. Most of the recent crop should do just fine. If Veritas made your DLA software, I'd say it's probably pretty bullet-proof just by the name even though I've never used it. I've had consistently good luck with Veritas software.

    I'm not 100% on what you mean by volumes. Can you clarify?
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    Re: Recording CD-RW's

    Hi Bruce and Dave,
    Where do you get FREE CD-R's? Do I go to the wrong stores? I use both CD-R & CD-RW's but never saw them free?

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    Re: Recording CD-RW's

    I have gotten them for CompUSA and Bestbuy. Just watch the ad's, the last bunch (100 count), were $13.99 with a $14.00 rebate, all I paid was the sales tax. But most of the time I have seen them for about $14.00 for a bundle of 100. I have seen good rebates at most of the larger Office type stores also, i.e., Office Depot, Staples, OfficeMax and etc.

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    Re: Recording CD-RW's

    Dave,
    OK I see how they are free(?) Although I'm not a big fan of rebates. Most times I avoid anything with the only costs $xx.xx with the rebate included deal.
    I would rather see the price reduced up front than go for it and HOPE for the rebate to eventually show up. (use my money now and maybe I'll give it back sometime)
    The price on the bulk pack seems reasonable though.

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    Re: Recording CD-RW's

    Hi, Bob ~

    Just flip through the plethora of ads in your fat Sunday morning paper. The stores here in O-hi-O such as Staples, Best Buy, Circuit City, Office Max, Office Depot & CompUSA have such good deals and nearly always split the rebates - for example, a 50 pack of Imation CD-R's will be advertised at $24.00 - $12.00 instant rebate at the register - $12.00 mail-in rebate = $0 <small>(exluding taxes, of course)</small> . Even if you are too lazy to fill out your address & an envelope, that still only 24

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    Re: Recording CD-RW's

    A "volume" is what most people call a "drive letter" -- or something like that.

    For example, my original Hard Drive was divided into a "C:", "D:" and "E:" drives. But they are really just three different "volumes" on the same physical drive. Perhaps you could consider a "volume" as an "apparent" or "figurative" drive -- as opposed to be "physical" or "literal" drive.

    I have not used Multi-Session recording -- and I am fairly certain the Veritas software does not allow me to 'Record' a session and not end it.

    BUT... when I start recording I am given a choice to "append" a previously recorded CD. I think this means a new session -- and a new "volume" is created. However, I really don't know what I am talking about... this is my VAGUE memory of something I read awhile ago.

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    Re: Recording CD-RW's

    Right - that's what I thought you meant by a volume, but I didn't want to assume. Multisession discs will not appear as additional drive letters. AFAIK Windows considers it to be one volume, and the problem of reading multisession belongs solely to the drive being used.

    The Veritas software is different than a multisession disc in that it treats a CD-RW like a giant floppy, so I believe it's all one "session" if it can be called that. The format of a CD-RW used in this manner is different than one that is written to a single (or multiple) time with programs such as Nero, EZCD and the like. You can still erase a CD-RW that has been written to using one of those applications because the material used in the disc is designed that way, but you would be erasing the whole kit and caboodle - as opposed to the packet writing scenario, where the erasure acts just like it does on magnetic media.

    Hope that helps!
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