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    Office 2003/Office XP Pro on Sep. Partitions (Office XP Pro)

    I have 4 partitions and Office XP Pro on "E." I got Office 2003 Beta 2 because I've heard it's pretty bug free and I want to try out some of its features, including One Note after friends said they were happy with it. I plan to put it on another partition, but I'm worried about the same applications from two different versions of Office on one hard drive. I saw Woody's discussions in the last three weeks in WOW (Mixing Office Versions Take 2 9 April 2003 and Tip: Mixing Office Versions 2 April 2003). There are a couple KB's I noticed:
    290576 OFFXP: Running Multiple Versions of Microsoft Office and 274289 Word 2002: Cannot Start Other Word When Multiple Versions are Installed.
    There is a simple enough work around in the second KB to get the other Word started, but I don't know about duplicate versions of all the components, mixed with XML, One Note, and Info Path in the same equation.

    Can someone give me advice on the 'best practices' way--it might be don't--to use them both on one NTFS partitioned hard drive? Are there any down sides? Can I do it safely without getting another hard drive? People frequently dual or multiboot OS's of course, but I'm not sure in the cases of Office XP Pro and Office 2003.

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    Re: Office 2003/Office XP Pro on Sep. Partitions (Office XP Pro)

    The rule of thumb is never put a beta on a production machine, no matter how many raves it gets. Putting it on another partition doesn't get around that unless you are running multiple OSs booting from different partitions. There will still be conflicts with a single OS because of the shared libraries and shared components. Plus, if you use Outlook, you can only have one version installed, period.

    I run multiple versions of Access on my machine, but I've had to fight conflicts there too.
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    Re: Office 2003/Office XP Pro on Sep. Partitions (Office XP Pro)

    Charlotte--

    Thanks for reminding me of that common sense rule. I need another hard drive or machine for that reason and I forgot about the element of sharing just one OS. I worried about shared libraries, files, and also registry entries that might cause competition or conflict. If you know of any place that discusses these conflicts in detail, I'd like to read it. When you run multiple versions of Access on your machine, are you dual booting or in some way using more than one OS on different partitions? Or are you having to use some complicated go-arounds to get this done? How are you successfully fighting the conflicts?

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    Re: Office 2003/Office XP Pro on Sep. Partitions (Office XP Pro)

    I'm running a single OS, Windows 2k, and I have the latest service packs on all the products. I haven't seen any library conflicts between Access 97 and later versions because they are based on different versions of VB, but there definitely were conflicts between 2000 and 2002 courtesy of an update to the vbe6.dll library in 2002 that broke/toasted 2000 code projects. That appears to have been cured by O2k SP-3. The saving grace among those three is that Microsoft kept changing its mind about where it was going to put things, so the conflicts are not as bad as they might have been, and beginning with Office XP, Office creates a separate directory for Office 10 without any intervention from the user. Please note that the way I'm doing it is dictated by the fact that I develop in 3 different versions, so I need to keep them around. Fortunately, I don't need multiple versions of the other Office apps or I'd be going nuts trying to keep them straight. <img src=/S/nuts.gif border=0 alt=nuts width=15 height=15>

    It does mean that I get 2 out of 3 help versions at best, though, and I only have one set of developers tools installed because I don't have to create setups in all three versions. I have the basic Access 97 help and I finally got it working for 2000 , since 2000 and XP can share most of the same help. It gets ugly when I need help for ADO though, and it gets confusing keeping track of the ADO versions among the various versions of Office, VB, SQL Server, and MDAC. At least there are only 2 versions of DAO to deal with ... for now.
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    Re: Office 2003/Office XP Pro on Sep. Partitions (Office XP Pro)

    If you are ready to dedicate one partition to Office 2003, just install Windows on this partition (if you are running Win 2000/XP there's no problem at all to install dual-boot system). After that, you can even copy entire Office 2003 CD to this partition, map this copy as separate drive (using The Virtual Drive Mapping Manager or similar) and install Office from there using "Run from network" option. Or you can install from CD, of course. Both Windows will "see" each other and you can share documents between versions. But don't forget to DESTROY this partition instead of uninstallig Beta, otherwise headaches guaranteed.

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    Re: Office 2003/Office XP Pro on Sep. Partitions (Office XP Pro)

    Charlotte and Kaplinb--

    Thanks much for the help. First time I have tried this with Office and I appreciate it. It's my understanding that if one were just to install a stand alone "One Note," none of this would come into play since One Note is considered an application in Office 2003 but can be installed separate from it, so I assume you don't have to make special arrangements for One Note alone.

    Kaplinb or Charlotte, when you say destroy the partition instead of uninstalling the Beta when it is about to time out, would it be necessary to run eraserXP.exe or whatever eraser from the Office support pages to get remnants of the Beta out of the registry so that they won't conflict or cause problems down the road with either Office XP or a new install of the final release Office 2003 or an upgrade to it?

    Also if you dedicate a partition to Office 2003, can't you do a "parallel install" of your same XP to that partition for Office 2003?

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    Re: Office 2003/Office XP Pro on Sep. Partitions (Office XP Pro)

    When I said "Destroy the partition", I meant fully erase Windows, Office and any other programs and documents on that partition using Disk Manager from other Windows installation or third-party disk manager, like PartitonMagic, from outside erasing Windows. Nothing will remain, that's why you don't need any other "eraser" utilities.

    When you install dual-boot Windows on different partitions, look at your computer as two computers in one box. When you boot on one Windows, you can "see" other the same way as on the network (the difference is that you'll see all partitions separately as local drives). That's why you can install any versions of Office in any order on one Windows without disturbing Office installation on another Windows (if you don't mess up the partitions, of course).

    Don't forget to save your documents in the safe place before erasing. Have fun.

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