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    Prohibiting Deletion of Favorites (6.0)

    Is there a way to prohibit users from deleting or moving favorites from Internet Explorer? We have machines that are shared by any number of students and find that some of the favorites that they are supposed to start with get moved of deleted.
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    Re: Prohibiting Deletion of Favorites (6.0)

    Barry--
    I'm not sure if you can allow the students access to favorites but put a protective shell over deletion of them. You can prohibit inport and export of Favorites. You can put "gpedit.msc" no quotes in the run box, and at the Group Policy Editor under User Configuration>Internet Explorer Maintainance>URL's on Left>Favorites and Links (on right). You can make a list and put a checkmark in the second box "Delete Favorites and Links if Present" which unghosts "Only Delete the Favorites Created by the Administrator." I'm not sure if this confers protection then on all the Favorites that you don't list--maybe someone knows the answer to that. I guess you can try it and see what will happen.

    I didn't search long, but I did find a third party app that is Greatware's "Active Privacy" and it says:
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    "It lets you disable individual menu items, prevent others from editing your Favorites, disable individual tabs in the Internet Options dialog, restrict access to the IE browser options. Also the program can log WHO and WHEN uses your computer to the special log file , so you always know who has used your computer. The administrator password prevents anybody to run the program and change settings and uninstall the program. The "Import/Export" function helps you set up the same settings on several computers very easy."
    <font color=448800>_________________________________________________</font color=448800>

    You can also search for programs like Prevent Deletion from Necromancer's Software (I just wanted to write that) written in VB and this could possibly do the job. There must be a program out there tailored to this.

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    Re: Prohibiting Deletion of Favorites (6.0)

    This may depend on you OS and what it will let you do...

    The Favorites folder contains "URL links" to various web sites. You can simply copy the contents of a perfectly arranged Favorites folder and save it in a new folder called "Favorites-Saved". That way you at least have a good copy to work with in the future.

    THEN, if you want to automate things, you could program the computers to delete the actual Favorites folder and replace it with a copy of "Favorites-Saved" on each re-boot. That will place a perfect copy of the Favorites folder in place every time.

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    Re: Prohibiting Deletion of Favorites (6.0)

    What OS? Are the students loggin on as unique users?

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    Re: Prohibiting Deletion of Favorites (6.0)

    R2 and Joe--

    1) Couldn't the students if they were feeling micschievous go to the "Favorites-Saved" folder and delete it--and how would you 'program' the computers to delete the actual Favorties folder and replace it with a copy of the "Favorites-Saved" reboot?

    2) Do you all think there is some way to work with that MMC/gpe dialogue box--assuming Barry doesn't want any favorites deleted but he does want the students to be able to access all favorites and links--if he puts a checkmark in the bottom box "Only delete the favorites created by the administrator" it unghosts the second box vertically which is "delete existing favorites and links if present." If he doesn't list anything, but unghosts that second box by putting a checkmark in the third box vertically then doesn't he theoretically protect all his favorites? I'll have to work with this but I thought you all might find something in applying this box I miss.

    3) I asked someone about this who said "Just set the security to be undeletable and unmodifiable on the file. Type File Permissions in help (to see what to do), then in IE Shift + Click Organize Favourites on the Favourites menu." Wouldn't that have the effect of password protecting or file permission protecting the Favorites so the students couldn't access them at all? There might even be a way to hide the favorites folder and the favorites/links from the students but that might defeat one of the purposes.

    4) Grateware's "Active Privacy" if it performs as billed might do what Barry wants. I'll have to see if it can be used as trial ware.

    5) Not sure what you mean (R2) about it being OS dependent.

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    Re: Prohibiting Deletion of Favorites (6.0)

    If this is an NT, 2k, or XP based system you can set access permissions by user that are very difficult to circumvent. On older MS OSes (i,e, 9x base) the security is not what it is with the newer ones. Also, you could have a script setup to run as a user logons to do whatever you wish - copy files/folders, etc., etc.

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    Re: Prohibiting Deletion of Favorites (6.0)

    As R2 might have mentioned before (he turned me on to Poledit), you could make the favorites-saved folder hidden in W98, use Poledit to take away the folder options from the control panel and the shell and the user, at least theoretically, should not be able to unhide the hidden or system files. Not sure how this might play out in IE...I once took away all of the drives in My Computer which seemed to be OK at the time. After a while, I realized that some programs I were using could actually not see/find the file. In fact IE might not even be able to see the favorites if the folder were hidden, might be worth a try.

    Poledit is not very fancy, but with a little imagination/ingenuity you might could get it to work.

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    Re: Prohibiting Deletion of Favorites (6.0)

    That is funny. I looked through Poledit and tried to find something specific for the Favorites folder and I found nothing. I had forgotten about taken away the Folder Options dialog box. That way, you could hide the Favorites-Saved folder and keep it hidden.

    Of course, on Win98 you can never REALLY keep things hidden. A sharp mischievous student could figure out how to beat Poledit also! You can only make a reasonable effort...

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    Re: Prohibiting Deletion of Favorites (6.0)

    Exactly as Joe says -- I can copy delete, move, or create anything on reboot. But I use Win98SE and I hate to assume everything I can do can be done on a WinXP system. WinXP has a lot more "interference" which prevents the user from 'accidently' deleting things Windows thinks it must have. That did not exist in Win98.

    YES, mischievous students could muck with the folder -- if they want to and if the knew how.

    The MMC/GPE does not exist in Win98 -- so again you have an OS-dependent solution. Additionally, I don't believe MS released GPE with WinXP-HomeEdition... Win98 does have "poledit" -- if you can find your original disks -- but it is not the same thing.

    Win98 does not have File Type Permissions either...

    So we are back to something that is quite clearly OS-dependent... <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>

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    Re: Prohibiting Deletion of Favorites (6.0)

    I hid the favorites folder but you can still edit the contents from IE. The only thing I found in Poledit was to show or not to show the favorites in the start menu!
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    Re: Prohibiting Deletion of Favorites (6.0)

    Right, I did find that also -- but since the user can still edit Favorites from with in IE and by using WIndows Explorer, that does not provide too much security! (As you know). Thanks for pointing that out. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>

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    Re: Prohibiting Deletion of Favorites (6.0)

    Hi, R2 & all ~

    We still haven't heard from Barry yet and which OS is applicable here, but if it were XP Pro, would it be possible to accomplish this through the 'Local Security Settings' (secpol.msc) and the myriad of rules and actions that can be created there?

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