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    Motherboard Upgrade

    I recently upgraded to a new ECS motherboard, CPU and RAM. I thought I would get out of the dark ages and build something with some speed. After gutting the old system (2 drives, 2 CDRom and floppy) and connecting them to the new system I can not boot(dual boot) either to W2K or W98. I am prompted to select which oper sys I want to boot to but W2K just freezes at the prompt screen when selected. I can only log into W98 via safe mode but can't seem to get that working under a normal log on. When I try the normal prompt, I get and error message of "While initializing device CONFIGMG: Windows protection error. You need to restart your computer". I've gone from a 450 to a 2.2g processor. MSoft's KB article 187612 gave me some insight but did not resolve the issue.

    If I connect everything to the old box....it works; so it is not the drives. The new motherboard recognizes the drives, cdrom and etc..

    Any advice is appreciated.
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    Re: Motherboard Upgrade

    Hi John,

    Correct me if I misread - you're trying to perform a MOBO/Proc upgrade without doing an OS format/reinstall?

    While I've managed to perform that successfully in the past (Win95 or 98), I believe it's more difficult to make that happen with later OSes. At this point, your problems sound like they're software or driver related rather than hardware (since you said the drives are recognized). Your best bet would be to backup your data files (shouldn't be too difficult since you have 2 drives and can access Win98 Safe mode) and do a format/reinstall of the OS(es).

    Also, I would recommend switching to NTFS on one or both hard drives (obviously - one at a time, so you can keep your data files intact). You can often get a performance boost over FAT16 and FAT32, not to mention the smaller cluster sizes and native compression capabilities.

    Hope this helps!

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    Re: Motherboard Upgrade

    Read this Here Also there are ways to get booted up it's just going to take some trying of different things. MarkJ has a good Idea if you don't mind doing a clean install, plus the fact that you now have a different configuration then you had before on the old machine. My guess is that your Video Card is new and if so can cause the error that your getting with Win98. You might do some checking around here on the Lounge before changing to NTFS, especialy if your just a home user.

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    Re: Motherboard Upgrade

    Also you can try a Step-By-Step Confirmation from the Startup menu and press Y each time. One other thing, i personaly think your problem is being caused by the New Video Card. When your in safe mode change your Display adapter to the generic setup and reboot and see what happens.

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    Re: Motherboard Upgrade

    I've done just this over and over. It's not so hard if the cause is known. The problem is almost always an inability of the OS to use it's driver for the hard disk controller. Even if the motherboard is the same make, model and revision, addressing assigned to it by Plug and Play will probably be different. So for Win9x boot into safe mode, open Device Manager, and delete your hard disk controller. For Win2k boot from the CD, choose recovery console and let it do the automated recovery. This installs a very basic hard disk controller driver that should be replaced, but will allow you to boot into the OS without trouble. You may also have to reinstall some updates, but determining just which ones can be tricky. Of course, the next major service pack will bring you up date on everything. Also note that if you are using SCSI or an IDE RAID card this all changes somewhat.

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    Re: Motherboard Upgrade

    He cannot use NTFS for C drive if he wants to be able to dual boot with Win 98.

    Best place for mobo questions is http://www.motherboards.org/forums.

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    Re: Motherboard Upgrade

    Dean,

    I tried booting W2K from the CD and received a message that the system was looking at the hardware configuration. I left the machine run approximately 10 minutes with this message. Unfortunately it just sits there. Any suggestions?

    John

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    Re: Motherboard Upgrade

    John did you try any of the things in my prior posts? Did you install your Hard Drives in the same configuration as you had in your old machine. I read a couple of articles on the net were they were having the same problem and it was due to the New Video Adapter not regonizing the old Adapter configuration on the Hard Drive. They had to change to Windows generic Adapter in safe mode, bootup and then load the new Video Adapter Drivers. Just a thought.

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    Re: Motherboard Upgrade

    CB,

    I don't have a new video card although I will change to the Window generic Adapter and give it another try when I get home tonight.

    John

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    Re: Motherboard Upgrade

    Have you tried it more than once? I would. I would also check all my connections: cables, cards and memory.

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    Re: Motherboard Upgrade

    Try booting with a Win 98 floppy.

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    Re: Motherboard Upgrade

    Well I finally got W98 to work. I had to do a parallel install. Apparently W98 didn't like the drivers/setup of the new board. I tried reinstalling W2K from W98 but I receive an error message that I can not perform another install because one already exists. My next option was to try to boot to the W2K CD and try it there. Only this time the system looks at my hardware (similare to the message that is displayed) and just sits there. Any suggestions would be appreciated. What I don't want to do is reformat the partition and install new. I would like to keep all my desktop setting and etc..

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    Re: Motherboard Upgrade

    You should be able to boot to Win 98, then run the Win 2000 install as a CLEAN install.

    Do not overwrite Win 98 and put te Win 2000 install in a separate logical drive, i.e., not the same drive in which Win 98 is installed.

    You will end up with a dual boot Win 98/Win 2000 system.

    Make sure all partitions are FAT32.

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    Re: Motherboard Upgrade

    I believe I found the culprit that will not allow me to boot to W2K. In reviewing the hard drive partitions via Partition Magic, I see that the drive letter D has been assigned to a different partition (I have four partitions). The lettering should be Drive C to boot W98, Drive D to boot W2K, E & F for data. Drive D is NTFS format while the others are Fat32. I can not associate or reassign the correct drive letter ("D") to the W2K partition. By-the-way the W2K partition has not drive letter assigned to it. I've tried using Partition Magic to reassign the drive letters but it is late and I've been at it much too long.

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    Re: Motherboard Upgrade

    Win 2000 may use different drive letters than Win 98.
    It depends on your hardware setup (more below).

    You need only use partition magic to repartition your drive.
    Installation of Win 2000 will cause a MSFT Boot manager to be placed on drive C.

    On my system, I have 3 SCSI hard drives.

    The drive letters are:

    Disk 1: C and D
    Disk 2: E, F, and G when booted as Win 98; F, G and H when booted as Win 2000
    Disk 3: H-L when booted as Win 98; I-M when booted as Win 2000

    Win 98 is on C
    Win 2000 is on F and aanother Win 2000 is on G (using Win 2000 drive letters)

    I may have been able to re-assign the drive letters by rearranging the hardware before I installed Win 2000, but I didn't, and it matters little since Win 98 had no references to Disk 2 and Disk 3. Originally, I had a ZIP drive at E under Win 98, now it's Q. I believe that if I had changed the ZIP drive to, say, Q, before installing Win 2000, then drive letters could have been the same for both installed OSs. Actually, it was Micron who shipped me the ZIP as E, if I had thought about it, should have changef the drive letter as I did for th CD-ROM drive. C'est la vie!

    Disk 2 and Disk 3's partitions are FAT 32 so Win 98 can, if needed, refer to those drives.
    Both partitions on Disk 1 are FAT 32 to make Win 98 happy.

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