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    Slipstream Bootable (XP Pro)

    I am slipstreaming a new bootable CD. I have the original XP Pro CD & an ISO of same, the 'Network Installation' of SP1 and boot files.

    My questions:<UL><LI>My ISO already will create a bootable CD, so will I still need the bootfiles in the slipstream?<LI>Is SP1a worthwhile?[/list]And most important:<UL><LI>How do I slipstream the folder of updates post SP-1?[/list]

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    Re: Slipstream Bootable (XP Pro)

    1. Depending of the program you use to modify your ISO, it can become not bootable. To be on the safe side, follow this instructions from Bink.
    2. It is better to integrate SP into installation files, another words, make WinXPsp1 Installation CD. Follow Bink's instructions how to do this (instructions are for Win2000, but the procedure for XP is the same). I burned both WinXPsp1 and Win2kSP3 and it works like a charm.
    3. You can try to slipstream hotfixes into installation files following this instructions and also considering this forum. I didn't try it. If you will, please post if it works.

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    Re: Slipstream Bootable (XP Pro)

    Hi, Kap ~

    The Win2K steps for slipstreaming hotfixes did not make much sense and it seems that thread is still tying to figure them out. I thought there was a thread here for slipstreaming updates but haven't located it.

    Have you used SP1a? Or should it be skipped until next SP and work w/ SP1 for now?

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    Re: Slipstream Bootable (XP Pro)

    Slipstreaming Win XP SP1a and Create Bootable CD
    Slipstreaming Win XP With Service Pack
    Slipstream SP1 into Your Win XP CD: Slipstream Guide
    Win XP Slipstreaming
    Thread Slipstreaming XP Club CD Freaks
    Slipstream XP Thread Win-Help.net

    If this question is--'should you download SP1 or SP1a?'--the answer is yes--a large number of issues are fixed/troubleshot compared to the much smaller incidences of problems from the XP service packs:

    <font color=blue>As for SP1a from Microsoft: "If you have installed Windows SP1, you don't need SP1a."</font color=blue> on MS SP 1 Site

    813926: Differences between Windows XP SP1 and Windows XP SP1a
    Release Notes for Windows XP Sp1 and Sp1a
    List of Bugs That are Fixed in Windows XP Service Packs--all 300 Plus of Them

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    Re: Slipstream Bootable (XP Pro)

    Hi, SMBP ~

    Per your links, thank you, I have learned there is no benefit to installing SP1a if you are already running SP1. MS does not recommend the install of SP1a if already running SP1. SP1a is the same as SP1 except that the MSVM is removed in SP1a.

    As mentioned above, I have the full network install of SP1. I know how to slipstream XP & SP1, but not how to slipstream the updates post SP1 - any links addressing that?

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    Re: Slipstream Bootable (XP Pro)

    If you mean collecting all the updates made available since SP1 as security patches they can be collected of course at the security site. And of course there are others for both IE6 or other browsers before it, and now are a group of updates available that as Mark pointed out on a thread recently are meant for a realatively small number of people who might need them to fix problems with IE6 or XP.

    I think what you want--not sure--is to get all these post XP fixes together and many are for the browser IE6 which of course has its own SP1 available built into or separate from XP SP1 and have a way to load them and also to put them on one bootable CD. There's also the problem of another week, another slew of fixes depending on the week. I don't know how to do that--getting a list of all wouldn't take long--perhaps someone is able to make a macro or script a way to load all them in one fluid move--and get them onto a CD that does that if that's what you're trying to do. Is that what you're after-- wanting to include all the fixes to date in one convenient CD that can be bootable? I know that MS has CD's available that include XP Pro or Home and SP1 in them--at least OEM or that they distribute to partners, ect. I haven't seen them for sale as a free standing download or box though--but even these wouldn't achieve your objective of getting everything to date in one loadable place--and I could be misunderstanding this--wouldn't be the first time.

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    Re: Slipstream Bootable (XP Pro)

    Bruce,

    Have a look at http://www.nu2.nu

    That site give an excelent tutorial on slipstreaming SP1 into XP. I don't recall seeing anything there about slipstreaming post SP1 patches into it, but if yo dig, there may be some info af value there.

    I have used the info there to slipstream SP1 into XPP and sp3 into W2K. Both with great results.
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    Re: Slipstream Bootable (XP Pro)

    Hi, Bryan ~

    Is this the tutorial to which you were referring? http://www.nu2.nu/bootcd/#wxp. This was all I could find and wasn't comprehensive or friendly and requires downloading proprietary software & files from two other companies.

    I did dig around and found in their forum people talking about slipstreaming hotfixes and a link to Microsoft to integrate hotfixes into an installation CD, but it seems they are still attempting to interpret it in such a manner that will work.

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    Re: Slipstream Bootable (XP Pro)

    Hi, Bruce,

    I don't know how far along you are. A while ago when I was performing a clean install on my son's system (<!post=see this thread,168881>see this thread<!/post>) , I used Paul Thurrott's instructions to create a W2K SP3 install CD and they worked perfectly.

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    Re: Slipstream Bootable (XP Pro)

    Bruce,

    Yes that is what I was talking about.

    It actually requires 3 downloads, 2 from nu2.nu and one from Nero

    1. The bcd software, which builds the ISO
    2. The WinXP boot image
    3. A Nero ASPI dll, which is freely available for download.

    If you read the whole page/site, it is fairly comprehensive. It even lays out the steps for you.

    I found it quite easy to follow and understand. I have a Win XPP with SP1 slipstreamed and a Win2K Pro with SP3 slipstreamed. It took me, maybe 20 minutes each to build. That includes the time to create an unattended installation config file.

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    Re: Slipstream Bootable (XP Pro)

    If you figure out how to do this you might want to give this download KB I noticed a look--815062 The Correct File is Not Installed When You Chain Multiple Hotfixes. I assume the reason why you want to do this slipstreaming is for convenience in a reinstallation or to install on some other computer--but since the patches are part of a never-ending production process--what will you do to update/incorporate the several patches that are released during every month and sometimes week?

    Also have a suggestion: Contact Steven Bink in Amsterdam who has spent so much time putting slipstream information up for various versions of 2000 updates and for XP and detailed screenshots using Nero to make the slipstreams on his site at Contact Steven Bink. He may be able to help you finish this the way you want it and then post up what you do/how it worked.

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    Re: Slipstream Bootable (XP Pro)

    Hi, Bryan ~

    Despite several attempts, it seemed to gloss over some important steps that resulted in errors. <img src=/S/shrug.gif border=0 alt=shrug width=39 height=15>
    I have, however, had great luck with a very simple step-by-step procedure including all switches and requires no extraneous downloads less the boot files.

    I highly recommend this slipstream process for a very easy and perfect bootable CD.<IMG SRC=http://www.krymow.com/images/cd.gif>

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    Re: Slipstream Bootable (XP Pro)

    Bruce,

    I had a qick look at that page. It didn't seem that friendly to me. I guess different stroke for differnt folks and all that jazz.

    I just want to clear up one thing though. The extaneous downloads, as you called them, is just a different application that you us to build the iso and burn it. It doesn't presuppose you have Nero or ECDC, nor does it require it.

    Once you have the bcd software, you don't need to download anything except the boot image, just the page you like.

    But I'm glad you have a working boot CD slipstreamed. I've got mine too.
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    Re: Slipstream Bootable (XP Pro)

    Hi, Bryan ~

    If you scroll down the page, you can them see the entire contents that spell out the exact steps for each step along the way from beginning to end to conveniently sidestep any doubt, making it a real snap. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>

    It wasn't mentioned that it did not require the BCD & perhaps that is why I was getting the error messages since I was trying to use the BCD download and burn with Nero since that was the impression I got w/ the Nero download and the for the boot image there was only one page presented. <img src=/S/stupidme.gif border=0 alt=stupidme width=30 height=30>

    How did you configure your unattended install file and which directory did you place it prior to integrating?

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    Re: Slipstream Bootable (XP Pro)

    Bruce,

    You DO need bdc. BDC is the application that builds the ISO and I *THINK* the Nero ASPI dll actually burns it, but I can't say for sure, since I only use bcd to build the ISO. Before I actually burn the ISO, I use VMWare to test the iso to make sure it's a good one before I burn the CD.

    Once you get all the files into the appropriate directories, you need to goto a command prompt and type "bcd wxppro -b" to create the ISO without burning it. Then you can use your favourite image burning app to actually burn the ISO, ECDC in my case.

    As for the unattended file, I'm going from memory here, since I'm at work, if you look on the XP cd under the support/tools/ directory, there is a cab file called deploy.cab. Extract all the files somewhere. There are about 5 files. One if the exes is called setupmgr.exe. This is the one that will step you through creating the unattended file. All you need to do is launch it, create a new answer file and then fill in the blanks.

    Then when you go to save it, save it in the i386 directory and save it with a file name of "winnt.sif" The only thing that I noticed was that the time zone setting didn't stick. If you open up winnt.sif in notepad and look for a line starting with TimeZone= you will probably need to edit this line manually.

    The app creates the line TimeZone=35 which doesn't work. It needs to be TimeZone="035" which is the US Eastern Time Zone. This little change makes the time zone setting stick.

    Other than that, it seems to work just fine. The help file is a little weird. IIRC, it says to save the file as unattended.txt in the i386 directory, but that never worked for me. I forget where I came across naming it winnt.sif, but as soon as I did that, life was good.

    Does this long ramble help with the unattended file?
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