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    Removing $NTUnistall Files

    Quick Question, which I'm hoping someone can help with . . .

    Our Server was (IMHO) badly partitioned when it was setup. It has the C: Drive, on which Win2K and Programs are installed; the E: Drive, onto which we save our Files/Documents; and the M: Drive, onto which Exchange was installed (although it appears that E & M are the same Drive, as they always have the same Amount of Free and Used Space???, but that's another story).

    Anyway, the C: Drive has only 750Mb left on it, and the company that supports us insists that it can't be repartitioned, so we're forced to try to remove files and folders from the C: Drive to make space.

    My (quick) question is this: Can I move the $NTUninstall Files from the C:WINNT Folder to the Partition that has 10 times as much free memory on it? Will this affect Windows/the Server in any way?

    Any advise is (as always) greatly appreciated.

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    Re: Removing $NTUnistall Files

    Do not start deleting files manually, that's asking for trouble.

    Instead, look at Add/Remove programs.
    For those installed on C, uninstall them and re-install them on another drive.

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    Re: Removing $NTUnistall Files

    At a guess, the "$NTUninstall Files" files will be a result of selecting the option to un-install a service pack during its installation. Can you confirm this?
    If so, I would say that you could move them to another partition, and simply move them back should you need to back-track. Personally, I have never found the need to move back an SP level, and now rarely bother with the uninstall option. If these are files from a previous SP, and you have been happily running with the latest SP for a while, I would be tempted simply to delete them.

    In what format is your C: drive, and how big is it? It may be possible to resize it using Partition Magic.

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    Re: Removing $NTUnistall Files

    Do not manually move such files.
    There could be links in the Registry or other files.

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    Re: Removing $NTUnistall Files

    Errr, so don't move or delete them?

    BTW, I though Partition Magic might be a goer, but the Tech Support company said that with partitions 3 partitions, this wasnt possible? I actually E-mailed Partition Magic's manufacturers, but i never got a reply. [img]/forums/images/smilies/sad.gif[/img]

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    Re: Removing $NTUnistall Files

    In the case of programs listed in Add/REmove programs there are "complex" entries in the registry.
    If you examine the files in the NTUninstall directory, you will note that there are indeed registry entries tied to those files.

    1. Moving installed programs can safely be done by uninstalling then re-installing in a different location. Some programs do fully/partially restrict locatons.
    2. Some programs, such as Outlook, Outllok Express, allow you to specify where certain files can go and the program will move them for you.
    3. Never move/delete files unless you are absolutely sure thare are no side effects, e.g., Registry references and file references.

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    Re: Removing $NTUnistall Files

    Yes, but that's a dangerous habit to develop, and may not work for all types of apps.

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    Re: Removing $NTUnistall Files

    C:WINNT$NtUninstall is a sub folder for uninstalling the Hot Fixes only. It will not hurt anything to move them to another Drive or Partion. But you will need to move them back to the original Partion to Uninstall the Hot Fixes from AddRemove. Its like any other program that has an uninstall file, it can be moved but you have to move it back for the program to be removed.

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    Re: Removing $NTUnistall Files

    Howard may be correct, but if you need the room, and as Leif said you don't plan on removing these Hot Fixes any time soon, I don't see any reason not to move them if that is a better option then not having any room on your Drive. Those files are not tied in to the execution of that Fix that has already been applied. As Howard said they are tied into the Registry, but the registry will not be looking for them unless you try and remove the Fix that it points to.

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    Re: Removing $NTUnistall Files

    OK. Thanks for that. I'll move them, then. [img]/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif[/img]

    Have a great day. Thanks for all your advice. [img]/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif[/img]

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    Re: Removing $NTUnistall Files

    According to this article you don't even need those files to remove the Hot Fixes. They can still be removed useing AddRemove Option. Read Microsoft Knowledge Base Article - 194334 Make sure you read the whole Article.
    You can also uninstall using this method at Command Promt Knowledge Base # 262841

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    Re: Removing $NTUnistall Files

    Movcing such files has at least two drwabacks:

    1. It leads to developing a very bad habit.
    2. When the time comes to use the files, one might forget that the files were moved or even to where they were moved.

    In the case of the $NTUninstall directory, on my system, it's only about 12MB, not even worth moving.

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    Re: Removing $NTUnistall Files

    If you can't remember where you are moving files , you have no business moving them in the first place. But I think I will give Farscape the benefit of the doubt, and not insult his intelligence. As for as how much room he will save, I will leave that up to Farscape also. As for as bad habits, couldn't tell ya. I personally don't have any. Well maybe a few......or three. <img src=/S/cheers.gif border=0 alt=cheers width=30 height=16> But don't tell anyone, OK?

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    Re: Removing $NTUnistall Files

    I don't know if you'll get an answer from PowerQuest or not, but the attachment is a screenshot clip from the user manual of Partition Magic 8. I think maybe it's time y'all questioned the "authority" of whomever provides your so-called support!
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    Re: Removing $NTUnistall Files

    One thing I have to agree with Howard on, { don't say it Howard, I know it's gonna snow , right}I don't see how your going to gain a whole lot of space by just moving those files. I would say you need to talk to your Company and tell them it is time to do a Backup of all Important Data and Programs, Reformat And Partition your Hard Drive or Drives and start out new and fresh with a better Partition Setup and alot more space. Moving those files may help, but I think it's just putting a bandade on the problem. 1st off 750MB of space , plus what ever you get from moving those files is still not much space. How big are your Hard Drives anyway?

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