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    Basic peer-to-peer mail question (win xp)

    Situation: We are a small not-for-profit seeking to move from our simple but very dated WIN95-based Peer-to-Peer LAN to a simple WIN XP based Peer-to-Peer LAN.

    Problem(?): I've heard a vicious rumor that WIN XP does not include a local email capability (i.e. the capability to send email and attachments from one LAN workstation directly to another on the Peer-to-Peer network-- without routing through the internet-- the capability that was offered by Microsoft Mail in WIN95).

    Question 1: Is this true?

    Question 2: If this is true, is there another simple method or product that provides direct, workstation to workstation email capability on a WIN XP Peer-to-peer network that you would recommend?

    Any and all help is _greatly_ appreciated!
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    Re: Basic peer-to-peer mail question (win xp)

    In theory, XP can run older software in Win95 compatibility mode, if it will not run natively.
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    Re: Basic peer-to-peer mail question (win xp)

    Thanks to Microsoft, you mixed up two different things - WINDOWS (as operating system) and OFFICE (as application). Windows XP is capable of running almost any application designed for Windows, including Microsoft Mail 3.x. Office XP (exactly, Outlook 2002 as part of it) is a replacement for previous versions of mail clients, including Microsoft Mail 3.x (for details see http://www.microsoft.com/office/ork/xp/four/oute05.htm - it states that "Microsoft Outlook 2002 provides all the features of Microsoft Mail 3.x for Windows").

    More, Windows XP is capable to send instant messages (using Messenger service) from one computer to another.
    You can do it from Command Prompt (or from Run dialog) using NET SEND command. The syntax for this command is:

    NET SEND { name | * | /DOMAIN{:name} | /USERS } message

    Example: NET SEND computername Hello!
    or NET SEND computername /username How Are You?

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    Re: Basic peer-to-peer mail question (win xp)

    Appreciate the feedback, but am still a bit confused.

    I was under the impression that Outlook provides a means of managing email accounts, but that it depends on some underlying software (like Exchange) to actually handle email across a LAN. And I was also under the impression that current versions of Exchange are all server-based LAN products-- don't run to on Windows XP peer-to-peer LAN.

    I've heard it said that this might have something to do with WIndows XP lacking MAPI support-- but don't pretend to know/fully grasp this.

    Am I all wet? Does Outook actually provide email capabilty directly across a Windows XP peer-to-peer LAN?
    I hope so!
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    Re: Basic peer-to-peer mail question (win xp)

    Yes, Exchange is a server-only product - you're correct about that. Outlook will not be able to use MAPI stores without it. Outlook can instead be configured to connect to a POP3 server. What you are attempting to do is set up mail between workstations, correct? You need a mail server somewhere for Outlook to function, be that at an external ISP or hosted on an Exchange server, which you don't have.

    You are correct, though - XP does not support MAPI, which is the Windows Messaging (not to be confused with the Messenger service, or MSN/.NET Messenger). This is detailed in support article 314491. Windows 2000 also does not include MAPI services, in both cases due to year 2000 issues. Of course, the Microsoft recommendation is that you invest in another of their products....Exchange. It would be much easier, and cheaper, if you got a low-priced ISP with a number of email accounts for you to use and utilized POP3 for email. The alternative is a server and the software, which is going to run a few thousand USD quite easily. However, Linux is free, and will run on PC level hardware - you could set up a POP3 server internally and use Outlook to connect to it.

    So the simple answer is no - Outlook does NOT provide peer-to-peer messaging across a LAN. Outlook is simply a front end for email, which allows you to connect to a back-end message store.
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    Re: Basic peer-to-peer mail question (win xp)

    My point was that you could run MS Mail on XP, using the compatibility mode if need be. This does depend on having Mail as a seperately installable program, though.
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    Re: Basic peer-to-peer mail question (win xp)

    Further to what the others have suggested, you could invest in a mail server such as MDaemon which can happily reside on one of your PC's - (a separate server is not needed). It starts at around US$100 (for up to 6 accounts) but you get a lot of functionality for your money.

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    Re: Basic peer-to-peer mail question (win xp)

    If you don't want to spend the money on an Exchange server, there is a fantastic Mail Server that is free. It's called Mercury and can be downloaded from http://www.pmail.com/whatsnew/new_m32.htm

    It works as a POP3, IMAP and SMTP mail server, but doesn't have to be installed on a server. A "regular" workstation is fine. So you can use Outlook to connect to it to send and receive local e-mail.

    If, at a point in the future, you want to give everyone internet e-mail addresses, Mercury can handle that as well.
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