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    Password Change (XP Pro SR1)

    Just purchased a new notebook computer with XP Pro and still trying to learn the ins and outs of XP. I have been logging on to one of my client's networks for a month now without problem. Today, when I tried to log on, it notified me that my password was about to expire and asked whether I wanted to change it. I said yes, entered the new passwrod and logged on without a problem. After working for a while I tried to print and was notified that I could not access the network printer - I had been locked out. I contacted the network administrator and was told taht I was locked out because of >5 incorrect password attempts. I had not entered any passwords or tried to log on to anything. We could not figure this out so the administrator reset my password to the new one I had just entered and I again logged on without a problem.
    I worked for a little while longer (never accessing anything on the network) and when I went to print was again notified I was locked out. Again I called the administrator and they say the same problem of repeated incorrect passwords. They reset my password again and watched as I logged in. Right after I logged in they could see incorrect passwrod attempts from my computer but I was not doing anything. Task Manager did not show anything else running. If I tried to access a network disk drive, my entre computer would just hang. They reset my password back to the original and I went in and did a change password to see if it would work this time. Nope, same problem, something was issuing incorrect passwords from my computer. They then reset my password back to the original and that is where I am now. So far, no incorrect passwords. But in 39 days, I will have to change my password and be right back in the same predicament.
    How do I find what in my computer is still trying to use an old password?

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    Re: Password Change (XP Pro SR1)

    Make sure your Shift or Caps key was, or is not locked are stuck when trying to change password or enter password. Other wise you should be able to change your password. Not that you can mind you, but you should be able to.

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    Re: Password Change (XP Pro SR1)

    Logging on to your client's network - or logging into the local machine, your laptop? The difference being that if you're logging in locally, the passwords on shared resources are set independently. If you're actually logging into the LAN/network/domain, then your password should propagate to all network resources that log into the same source.

    I suspect you're logging into the local machine (laptop). If that's the case that means your password is set to expire until you change that option. Here's how:

    1. <LI>Right-click My Computer
      <LI>click Manage
      <LI>Click on the plus sign to expand Local Users and Groups
      <LI>Click Users
      <LI>Double click the user account that should not have a password expiration.
      <LI>Click the Password never expires check box and make sure it's ticked.
    Now you don't have a time limit on your password and you won't be prompted to change it again. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>
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    Re: Password Change (XP Pro SR1)

    I am logging on to the network at my client's office. It is that network that has a time limit on passwords. I know my password "should" propogate to all network resources, but apparently it is not. As I said, the network administrator can saw the "invalid password" attempts after I logged on to the network with my changed password. How can I go about checking "all of the network resources" to see if there is a password problem with one of them? Or how can I otherwise isolate this problem?

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    Re: Password Change (XP Pro SR1)

    What is likely happening is that cached credentials are being used.. Have you tried to re-boot the XP machine as opposed to just logging off and on? If you are brave and have a back up of the XP machine you can try deleting the files and folders under C:windowscsc. This is the client side cache. Otherwise, I think the only sure way is to re-boot the machines in question.

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    Re: Password Change (XP Pro SR1)

    I don't believe I tried to reboot. Are you saying that when I change my network password, I need to reboot my computer and then log on again and that should clear up the old cached credentials? XP doesen't take care of this administratively where W2000 and even W98 SE did?????

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    Re: Password Change (XP Pro SR1)

    Not sure what causes cached credentials to be updated and on what time fram. Re-boots seems to have fixed occurrences like that for me before though.

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    Re: Password Change (XP Pro SR1)

    Yes, it appears that rebooting after changing my password solved the problem. Now that brings up a question in my mind. If XP is Microsoft's latest and greatest operating system, why is it not smart enough to either (1) take care of all the necessary password housecleaning without a reboot or (2) to simply prompt that a reboot is required (as it does for some installations/upgrades?

    I almost thought that the reboot did not solve the problem either because after reboot I could not access my client's network. After talking to the network administrator I found that the network was apparently not available when I tried to log on (after the reboot). XP does not provide any warning, comment, etc. that the network is not available to log on to (as the old W98 did). It simply logs you on to the computer and you have to figure out that you are not on the network. Thanks for all these improvements Mr. Gates!

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    Re: Password Change (XP Pro SR1)

    Jim, Try this KB article: HOW TO: Manage Stored User Names and Passwords on a Computer That Is Not in a Domain in Windows XP. It has some links to other articles that may be pertinent. Also, many think being able to login with a network userid even though not connected to the network is an advantage. You can always login as a local user too.

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    Re: Password Change (XP Pro SR1)

    I think all you needed to do was "Log off" and then "Log back in". A reboot should not been needed. Also one should ALWAYS do this to TEST the NEW password.

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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