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    Removing Hangup In Boot Sequence

    I'm gonna post this here, even though it's not really a hardware issue. But It's not a Windows issue either. And we don't have a DOS board here in the Lounge. <img src=/S/nope.gif border=0 alt=nope width=15 height=15>

    I'm setting up an old IBM Thinkpad 600E (PII 366, 128MB RAM) for the niece of a friend. Her father bought the "hardware" at a computer show with nothing but a DOS Shell installation on the disk. No drivers, no OS. I got the drivers and installed them after I installed an old copy of Windows 98SE. The system is up and running nicely except for one little hitch. When I boot the system it hangs after it resets the CDROM support. The next line is "C:> ECHO OFF" and the next line asks "Do you want to start DOSSHELL? [Y,N] __" . It doesn't matter what I answer, Y or N, the screen goes dark for a second then the same screen appears with the added line "Too Many Parameters", pauses for a moment and then Windows starts normally. DOS is NOT my area, but my guess is that this is something in the System INI file that needs to be edited out. Can someone walk me through the necessary steps here ?? I can't imagine that it is very difficult, but I'm afraid it might disable the system if I do it incorrectly. Any assistance will be humbly accepted. <img src=/S/bow.gif border=0 alt=bow width=15 height=15>
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    Re: Removing Hangup In Boot Sequence

    Attach a file containing the Autoexec.bat and config.sys files. There may be something in these files that is hanging.

    By the way I see NO need in the "Do you want to start DOSSHELL? [Y,N] __" entry.

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    Re: Removing Hangup In Boot Sequence

    Dave,
    Thanks for the response. I also see no need for the DOSSHELL line either. Thought it was just a way to make a command prompt readily available when the system was cleaned out for resale. The problem appears to be in the Autoexec.bat file and starts with that entry. I would guess that removing that line and the following 2 lines should solve the issue. There's no floppy drive and so no way to get any data off that machine right now, but here are the file contents for your consideration.

    Autoexec.bat
    rem - by Windows Setup - C: Windows Command MSCDEX / D:MSCD001 / M:8
    ECHO OFF
    rem by Windows Setup - mouse.com
    C: Windows Command Choice Do you wish to start DOSSHELL?
    IF ERRORLEVEL 2 GoTo Stop
    :Stop

    Set Path = %Path% C: Program Files Executive Software Diskeeper Workstation

    Config.sys
    device = C: Windows himem.sys
    Device = C: Windows setver.exe
    Device = C: CDROM V330_11C.SYS / D: MSCD001
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    Re: Removing Hangup In Boot Sequence

    Doc, try the following edits - after backing up the originals. The edited lines are bolded.

    AUTOEXEC.BAT

    ECHO OFF
    <pre>SET path=%Path%;"C:Program FilesExecutive SoftwareDiskeeperWorkstation"
    rem by Windows Setup - mouse.com
    C:WindowsCommandChoice /c:yn /t:n,10 Do you wish to start DOSSHELL
    IF ERRORLEVEL 2 GoTo Stop
    :Stop
    C: WindowsCommandMSCDEX /D:MSCD001 /M:8</pre>


    The CHOICE command requires a /c to work - without it, there is no way the user can specify yes or no. The /t switch specifies that the command waits the specified number of seconds before selecting the other parameter as the default action - so here, you would have to choose "y" within ten seconds to get into DOS, or the system would continue to boot normally.

    If you want, you can REM out every line in the AUTOEXEC.BAT except for the SET PATH command. I've moved the CD-ROM device line so that it doesn't execute unless DOS is the selected option - Windows has its own 32-bit protected mode drivers for CD-ROM access, and loading these at startup is unnecessary and could cause instability or slow CD access.

    Hope that helps,
    -Mark

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    Re: Removing Hangup In Boot Sequence

    Mark,
    How do I back up the originals ??? I just set up an external Zip drive i had laying around. Should I backup to it or just do a backup to the HD ??
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    Re: Removing Hangup In Boot Sequence

    Easiest way to back up a file like that....COPY autoexec.bat *.bak which will produce a file called AUTOEXEC.BAK - a copy of the original, pristine and unedited. You can then edit the original and save it without worrying. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15> Do the same thing with CONFIG.SYS and you've got the originals tucked on the hard drive, right next to the ones you will be editing. I'm assuming this from a DOS prompt, which you can do from within Windows itself.
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    Re: Removing Hangup In Boot Sequence

    I think I understand what you are saying. However, it's tired and I'm getting late. I want to have at this with a fresh state of mind. So I'll start on this tomorrow and see if I can't make it boot clean. I'll post back with the results. Thanks for the guidance !! <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>
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    Re: Removing Hangup In Boot Sequence

    Maybe it's just me, but why not completely delete the lines

    C:WindowsCommandChoice /c:yn /t:n,10 Do you wish to start DOSSHELL
    IF ERRORLEVEL 2 GoTo Stop
    :Stop

    The net effect seems to be that you answer the question and go to the same line in the bat file whatever answer you get.

    StuartR

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    Re: Removing Hangup In Boot Sequence

    Correct you are....as Doc so wonderfully stated, I'm late and it's tired. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>
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    Re: Removing Hangup In Boot Sequence

    Stuart,
    Are you clairvoyant ??? After looking at the situation with fresh, albeit, tired eyes, I had the very same question to ask Mark. I'll go into msconfig and uncheck those lines and see what gives. At least someone is awake enough at 2 in the morning here in the lounge when you need a question answered. <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>
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    Re: Removing Hangup In Boot Sequence

    Mark & Stuart,

    My compliments and thanks to both of you for your timely advice and assistance. <img src=/S/thankyou.gif border=0 alt=thankyou width=40 height=15> <img src=/S/yep.gif border=0 alt=yep width=15 height=15>

    My partner just picked up the laptop to deliver it to his niece, and I was able to tell him that it was working PERFECTLY !!! You both had the solution. You were simply approaching the problem from different angles. It was tired and Mark was getting late. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15> I'm sure Mark's response was simply a matter of him reverting to basic instinct, due to exhaustion, and solving the problem in DOS. <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15> And, simply put, a DOS illiterate like myself is MUCH more comfortable in the Windows environs. Once I opened msconfig and saw those lines in the file with check boxes next to them, it was practically second nature to me to surmise what I needed to do to solve the problem. Uncheck the boxes next to those lines !!! <img src=/S/bingo.gif border=0 alt=bingo width=15 height=22> I might have eventually solved the problem on my own, but it sure was a comfort to have someone to check with, even at such a late hour, and get an INTELLIGENT response from a computer literate person. <img src=/S/compute.gif border=0 alt=compute width=40 height=20>

    The Lounge comes through AGAIN !!! <img src=/S/fanfare.gif border=0 alt=fanfare width=31 height=23>
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