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    XP laptop on workgroup

    I have a home workgroup that all three computers can see and share files (2 with W98, 1 with W2k). I added a laptop with XP Pro onto the network. My W2000 box can see the laptop, but cannot gain access. The laptop can see the workgroup name, but can't go any further.

    I have added permission under "users and passwords" for the laptop and have added a folder on the laptop to be able to share. Why wouldn't I be able to share files back and forth on the laptop?

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    Re: XP laptop on workgroup

    hello KZ,
    Make sure that ALL the computers are listed in the same workgroup. Also make sure that you have shared files on the computers. There should be a little hand underneath the files you want to share, Please write and tell tell us if this helped any, other wise you can try more drastic steps - just joking!

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    Re: XP laptop on workgroup

    Each computer shows to log into the same workgroup name and each has one folder set up to share.

    Again, one computer can see the other computer's name, but that's as far as it goes; from the laptop side, it will show the workgroup name, but no computers, not even it's own.

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    Re: XP laptop on workgroup

    Three things you might want to check. When I first installed XP Pro a year and a half ago, I read on what used to be Tim Higgins "networking" web site that I would need to turn OFF "Simple File Sharing" in folder options. I can't remember why and he doesn't have the web site any more. He also said, because the other machines on my LAN logon WITHOUT a password, that I needed to make a change in Security Policies (see attachment) to make the XP machine allow this. And third (this has been mentioned here in The Lounge many times) on the XP machine, there needs to be a User Account with the name of the logged on user of each of the other machines on your LAN. In my case, since I boot up all machines with the same user name, I only had to create one. See what you think of all of this.....

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    Re: XP laptop on workgroup

    Each of the other PC's ARE logging in with a password to the workgroup. Although, with the XP login it doesn't give you a choice of login options. The other PC's name and pw to allow access to my W2k PC are enabled in Users & Passwords from the Control panel on my W2k PC.

    Is there some reason that it being in NTSF that I can't even share a folder?

    --KZ

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    Re: XP laptop on workgroup

    "XP login it doesn't give you a choice of login options", this computer is in the single user mode. Go to Control Panel and then accounts and add a password to this account. Also is this account a member of the Admin group?

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    Re: XP laptop on workgroup

    Yes, it's a member of administrator.
    BTW, how do you log in as the actual "administrator"? (as opposed to the other logins that have admin rights?) I have two login available, plus a "guest". Those are the only options for loging in. When I went in to add administrator, it said it was already there though of course.

    I can ping each computer back and forth fine.

    From my W2k box, I can see the computer name in the workgroup, but can't go any further. On the laptop, I can see other W98 PC's and myself as the laptop, but can't make access to the drive.

    --KZ

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    Re: XP laptop on workgroup

    Have you actually "shared" any folders. Right click the folder in Explorer and choose "Properties" then "Sharing"

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    Re: XP laptop on workgroup

    Yes....several folders. Even on the XP laptop there are several "generic" shared folders too and I can see those laptop shared folders from the laptop in the network neighborhood workgroup, but not from the other computers.

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    Re: XP laptop on workgroup

    Can you try this DOS command on one of the PCs. (Assume that the other PC has a name of PC1 and a user account of User1)

    NET USE PC1IPC$ /user:User1

    These DOS net commands tend to have helpful error messages.

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    Re: XP laptop on workgroup

    Could firewalls be a problem? If you have a proprietary firewall such as ZoneAlarm on each of the computers, and the router has a firewall, and the Windows XP firewall is being used in any or all cases, could they be blocking the transfers?

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    Re: XP laptop on workgroup

    OK, got it figured out. It was ZoneAlarm not allowing access. I added the IP range in my list of trusted sites and it works perfectly now. Phew

    I also learned that with XP there is no administrator login, but only users with admin rights. That allows two password levels instead of one. Everone would know that one user name would be administrator, this way it's more secure.

    I learn something every day.

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    Re: XP laptop on workgroup

    Do you mind sharing with us where you learned this info? I think it's wrong - there IS an "Administrator" on every installation of XP as far as I know. The most confusing thing about that is that most users aren't aware of whether they are running as the built-in administrator or not, or even what password, if any, goes with that account. There are also differences in how you get to that account, depending on whether your network is a workgroup or domain, and/or whether you use the Welcome Screen to logon or the traditional method. Anyway, I'd be interested in what you heard or from where did you read something.....

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    Re: XP laptop on workgroup

    Well, I stand corrected. (Thanks Big Al) If I change to the classic login I can log in as administrator and without a password. (I need to change that.)
    I got this information from the place I purchased my laptop from (a local computer "professional" place). I'll have to set him straight about that one.
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    Also, I noticed that once I logged in as "administrator" using the classic login that it added a login icon using the new welcome method (it wasn't there before).

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    Re: XP laptop on workgroup

    And, if you aren't already familiar with them, you ought to consider installing a copy of TweakUI For XP and maybe even Xteq Utility. Both of these allow a LOT more customizing of all kinds of stuff in XP.

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