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    Mozilla Stored Settings (Mozilla 1.2.1)

    In response to a question from Stuart, I posted <!post=these comments.,264709>these comments.<!/post> My question HERE has to do with the fact that after I made that post, I tested the link with my browser, just to be sure it worked. Most of you Moz users know that when you hit a link like that, Mozilla pops open a window asking if you want to open the file or save it. In this case, I did something I never do! I checked off the box telling it not to bother me with the question any more, in other words, ALWAYS open the file (or so I thought). Now, when I go back to that link, nothing happens! The real audio file doesn't "automatically" play as I thought it would. The link works OK in IE 6 however, and the song plays as it should.

    The question is, do you know where Mozilla stores choices like I made so I can un-do what I did? Or, better yet would be, do you know why the .RA file no longer plays, now that I've told Mozilla not to ask me any more?

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    Re: Mozilla Stored Settings (Mozilla 1.2.1)

    Hi Al

    I am using Mozilla, but I don't have an answer to your questions.
    However, when I click on your link, I get a new blank window in Mozilla......no download.
    If I copy the link into Real Player, I get the message popup below. If I click on "More Info", I get a new browser window opening to my C: drive (I clicked Stop and closed the window and Real Player......man I hate all the ad popups!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Beats me!!!!!!!!

    Have a Great day!!!
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    Re: Mozilla Stored Settings (Mozilla 1.2.1)

    There are "known issues" with the Real Player plug in and Mozilla. See here for a workaround.
    BTW I sure don't have Big Al Doc's taste in music! <img src=/S/eargear.gif border=0 alt=eargear width=20 height=20>
    HTH
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    Re: Mozilla Stored Settings (Mozilla 1.2.1)

    Whassamatter, you don't like my accordeen playin', huh?

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    Re: Mozilla Stored Settings (Mozilla 1.2.1)

    <P ID="edit" class=small>(Edited by bigaldoc on 16-Jun-03 09:57. Latest efforts on my part)</P>Just to fill in the blank spots.....

    I replaced the prefs.js and user.js files with "master" backups I keep. I also back 'em up every night and tried putting back the files from the day before with no luck. Since I was downlevel on Mozilla anyway, I uninstalled 1.2.1 and blew away the directories, saving only essential files like bookmarks, address book, mail, etc. Installed version 1.3.1 and the performance is still the same, i.e. the RealOne Player doesn't start on that page any more. I'm tempted to think a registry change was made when I clicked that box telling it not to ask me the question any more, especially since the song plays OK in IE 6. I might try uninstalling RealOne and re-installing to see if that does anything.

    It's kinda ironic that a box giving you the check-off to "don't ask me this question any more" appears so often in Windows, there doesn't seem to be an easy, available way to undo that choice.....

    Edited to add: 16 June. I downloaded and re-installed the RealOne Player, especially since I had re-installed Mozilla and needed the plugins for RealOne. Non-playing behaviour hasn't changed, so I'm STILL LOOKING.....

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    Re: Mozilla Stored Settings (Mozilla 1.2.1)

    HI BigAl:
    I commiserate with your problem. I don't know the answer directly, but I can guess. I think that this may have something to do with plug-ins & MIME types. Since Mozilla can't play a song, it uses plug-ins for that. Maybe if you either delete the MIME type for the extension or reapply the plug-in, it will help. Also, check on the Start Menu for Setttings/Folder Options/File Types/RealAudioClip/Edit & see if the box for "Confirm Open after download" is UNchecked (mine is unchecked).
    Hope this helps,

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    Re: Mozilla Stored Settings (Mozilla 1.2.1)

    Thanx for the suggestions, Phil. I hate to admit, I don't know HOW to delete a MIME type. I did re-install RealOne because Mozilla did not show any plugins for Real. I don't have a Folder Options on my Start Menu and it's probably because I use the Classic, but I did go into Folder Options from within Explorer and sure enough, there were two "autoplay RealOne" entries at the beginning of the table that HAD a checkmark. I un-checked it and went through the entire list for all Real extensions that I'm aware of, i.e. RA, RAM, RMJ, etc. None of those had the checkbox selected. But, dear old Moz still won't play that RealOne file from the link in my first post. I also typed in a URL directly to a Real Media file and it doesn't play either. Something more to this than meets the eye.....

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    Re: Mozilla Stored Settings (Mozilla 1.2.1)

    Hi BigAl:
    I'm getting in over my head, too. <img src=/S/laugh.gif border=0 alt=laugh width=15 height=15> I've never deleted a MIME type, but I recall R2 talking about them. If you go, Alt+E,E to get to Preferences, then Navigator/Helper Applications, there should be a list. I know you can delete something, but I DON'T know what that will do.

    I wonder if you go to the Netscape forum under the secnews.Netscape (secure) server, one of their experts (called Champions) will have the answer. You can do that right from your browser.

    I also wonder if one of the Internet Options from IE gets changed when you told it not to prompt you. I think some of the Internet Options affect other browsers. Sorry I don't know the real answer. If I think of anything else, I'll post back.
    Good luck,

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    Re: Mozilla Stored Settings (Mozilla 1.2.1)

    Thanx for trying, Phil. I did go in to Helper Applications and delete that MIME type, but it didn't help. What's so puzzling is that I completely re-installed Mozilla to upgrade to 1.3.1 but I admit I didn't delete registry references for Moz. Maybe I should have done that. Having re-installed RealOne Player to get the plugins inserted into Mozilla and the fact that the autoplay process WORKS when I try it in IE 6, leaves me at a loss. I've also been Google searching newsgroups to see if I can find any reference to this problem but I may not be wording my search criteria correctly. I'm so scared of newsgroups that I never post questions there, so I guess I'll have to live with it, as they say.....

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    Re: Mozilla Stored Settings (Mozilla 1.2.1)

    <P ID="edit" class=small>(Edited by Phil Rabichow on 20-Jun-03 12:09. twice to add P.S.)</P>Hi BigAl:
    A couple more ideas.
    1. Do a search for prefs.js file
    2. Make a copy.
    3. Open the original for editing in Notepad.
    4. Look for two lines similar to this:

    user_pref("browser.downloadmanager.behavior", 1);
    user_pref("browser.download.save_converter_index", 0);

    If the numbers are different than the ones above, edit them & see what effect, if any, that has. I'm especially interested in whether it brings the "prompt" back. Let me know & I'll see if I can think of anything else.

    P.S. And check one more:
    user_pref("browser.helperApps.neverAsk.saveToDisk" , "application/zip");

    Still later:
    Bug 171441 - Unable to download files.
    The solution, according to the Bugzilla entries, is:
    1. Closing Mozilla
    2. Deleting mozilla.orgMozillacomponentscompreg.dat (Or Renaming)

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    Re: Mozilla Stored Settings (Mozilla 1.2.1)

    Phil, I can't tell you how much I appreciate your staying to help me on this, but the first two entries in my prefs file are just like yours (i.e. download). On the other one, I don't have ANY entries in my prefs file that say "neverask" so I don't think that's it either. I think I'll go create a dummy user profile that's plain-vanilla and see what happens. That should at least eliminate whether it's a prefs problem or something more global than that.

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    Re: Mozilla Stored Settings (Mozilla 1.2.1)

    Al, check out these two sites. http://www.geocities.com/pratiksolanki & http://gemal.dk/mozilla/files.html. I learned that you can list all your lines in prefs.js by typing

    about:config

    in the address window of Mozilla.

    There are also lines of:
    browser.helperApps.alwaysAsk.force This is set to false
    browser.helperApps.neverAsk.openFile This is set blank

    I can't seem to find a definitive list for every setting, but it must be in prefs.js, I think.

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    Re: Mozilla Stored Settings (Mozilla 1.2.1)

    Yeah, that About:Config has been very helpful on many occasions to me too. And the page with the description of the profile files is at the top of my bookmarks since I go there so much in resolving problems. In this case, I did two things. I used Profile Manager to create a new, test profile and then went to my music page with no success. So I don't think it's a prefs setting, but just in case.....
    <hr>browser.helperApps.alwaysAsk.force This is set to false
    browser.helperApps.neverAsk.openFile This is set blank<hr>
    I tried adding the first one to my prefs file, setting it to "true" and re-running. No luck there either and when I closed Moz and re-opened the prefs file, the line I had added was GONE! Go figger.....

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    Re: Mozilla Stored Settings (Mozilla 1.2.1)

    <hr> the line I had added was GONE!<hr>
    This is because there is a setting elsewhere in Mozilla which overrides it. BTW, as you said earlier, I think it may be a registry setting that you're grappling with.
    Gre

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    Re: Mozilla Stored Settings (Mozilla 1.2.1)

    <P ID="edit" class=small>(Edited by Phil Rabichow on 21-Jun-03 15:46. )</P>Hi Al:
    Following up on unkamunka's suggestion about it being a registry entry, I found the following:
    1. A search on Google brings up the following over here

    This is a list of "Always ask before opening..." prompts.

    2. 177976 seems to indicate that going to Folder Options.../File Types & checking "Confirm after download" for a specific extension should bring the prompt back. Otherwise, the file is downloaded in the TIF. Perhaps RealPlayer is set to look elsewhere for RA & other files it plays. i.e. when you say the link does nothing, I wonder if it's being saved into the TIF. I can't test this because I don't have Real Player.

    3. One of the articles talks about changing the Edit flags on the specific file type:
    See this one
    Good luck!

    P.S. See also <!post=HansV's Post,267087>HansV's Post<!/post>

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