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    FP2002 and changing web service providers (FP2002)

    Because of FP2002 overhead concerns (detailed elsewhere in the forum), I am changing web-hosting service providers. (It's a pretty good deal -- 10 times the disk storage and 20 times the bandwidth for half of what I was paying before.) Until DNS propagation is complete, I can only FTP files to the new provider's server. I'm paid up on the old provider until the end of the month, so the site will stay up until DNS prop is complete. I have installed the FP extensions at the new provider. But here are my concerns:

    How will FP2002 respond to the FTP'd files the first time I "publish" to the new provider's server (once DNS prop is complete, of course)? Will it just adjust gracefully? Scramble its overhead and indexing files? Insist on uploading everything again? (This latter question is important because I'll be traveling over a long weekend and will only have access to dial-up connections.)

    Thanks for any help on this.

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    Re: FP2002 and changing web service providers (FP2

    If you can't use the FrontPage publish features you are leaving a lot behind. Using FTP the host system won't check which files are already on the system or were just updated by you, for example, and that's important. Maybe you prefer to upload every file on your site every time you send up a spelling correction but not likely. The host should install web extensions though it's possible to do it yourself. Just never could make it work unless they were put in by the server end. There is also the factor of having a server where the management isn't familiar with FrontPage OR doesn't like it. You will have troubles you can't presently imagine, either way.

    FrontPage is a very good system for folks who don't need a lot of bells and whistles on their pages. But one of the best is being able to use the FrontPage publish feature and, if you can't take advantage of that, consider a different web host. There are tons of them that welcome FP.

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    Re: FP2002 and changing web service providers (FP2

    Sorry, Bill. I didn't make myself clear. The FTP-only restriction is only three or four days long, until all the DNS servers around the world know that they need to associate my www.parbarwestward.org with IP address y.y.y.y instead of its old address of x.x.x.x.

    My question is: if I FTP my site up today at the beginning of the DNS propagation [i.e., "address change"] process (so that as more and more DNS servers point to the new location, folks will still see my site), how will FP2002 react the first time I ask it to publish? (Although I don't use much in the way of FP2002 templates [preferring style sheets for the most part], I do like the way the environment is set up, and I do like the ease the publishing feature affords.) The new web-hosting provider is very much on-board with FP. It's just that FP itself can't "publish" to the new location until it can do so through normal DNS connections.

    Jim

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    Re: FP2002 and changing web service providers (FP2002)

    It will probably want to republish everything including existing files. Onle way around that would be to mark all the pages that are currently "up" on the server as not to be published. (Right Click on the file/s in Folder view and select Don't Publish). You'll just have to remember to change that setting when you do want the files to be updated.

    If the supporting files do not already exist - you'll get a message:
    <font color=blue>A web does not exist at .... Would you like Front Page to create a web at that location?</font color=blue>
    You could ask your service provider to do that ahead of time.
    Otherwise I expect the conversion to be fairly graceful.

    Good Luck!
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    Re: FP2002 and changing web service providers (FP2

    Jim,

    Okay, gotcha! You're in exactly the same place I was several months back when I changed hosts The new folks even gave me a temporary address to ftp all the files.

    When the propagation 'took' there was no problem at all. FP kicked right in the first time I got through on the new address. Used one simple trick, put some identifiable little piece of art at the top of the index.htm page so I knew it was reading from the new host. That was my signal to delete everything from the old host's server...using ftp.

    Everything will be all right! Aloha,

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