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    Section Break Re-education (2002)

    I give.
    I'm trying to create an autotext entry set up as follows:

    1) a Section Break Next Page
    2) a Header in that section which is formatted with .5" margins
    3) a Section Break Continuous
    4) the body text formatted with 1" margins.

    When this AT is inserted into a document, Word converts the "Section Break Continous" to a Section
    Break Next Page, thus putting the header and the body text on two different pages.

    If I add another Section Break Continuous to the end of the body text, Word converts that one to a Next Page
    and I end up with an extra blank page at the end.

    I know there's a thread of three on this topic, but witt Search still MIA, I need YOUR help! Thanks!
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    Re: Section Break Re-education (2002)

    Hi Kevin:

    >>1) a Section Break Next Page

    I don't think you can do this with AutoText. That's because formatting is held in the section break following the section & the type of break is displayed in the break preceding the section. Real confusing. You might need a macro. However, if your default break under File/Page Setup.../Layout/Section start: is "New Page", then the type of break inserted should be a next page section break.

    >>2) a Header in that section which is formatted with .5" margins
    You CAN'T have a header with a different margin than the section that's it's in. However, what you can do is create a new Header style (e.g. Header 2) in which the paragraph indents for both right & left are minus .5. This will give the appearance of a wider margin.

    >>3) a Section Break Continuous
    You won't need a continuous section break after the header, since you can't have different margins anyhow.

    >>4) the body text formatted with 1" margins.
    If you format the Page Setup with 1" margins & the header with a style that indents negatively, I think you'll have what you want.

    Here's the rub. The header is automatically created with the Header style (you could modify that style, if you wish). However, if you want a different style for just this section, I think you'll need a macro. The new style in the header doesn't seem to go with the section break.

    Hope this helps,

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    Re: Section Break Re-education (2002)

    Thanks Phil,
    I'm digesting all this. Help me out though on this bit:
    >>You CAN'T have a header with a different margin than the section that's it's in

    I do get the formatting results they way I described. But let me clarify 'cause I know you know what you're talking about.

    The Section Break New Page at the top is set for .5" margins. The head for that Next page display correctly with .5" margins.
    Now, I like your idea of a style with negative margins. In fact, you amazed me with that tip years ago (I obviously forgot it!). But,
    I am getting the margins the way I want without the neg. margins.

    The Section Break Continuous then sets the margins back to 1" and the body text is formatted correctly.

    >>However, if your default break under File/Page Setup.../Layout/Section start: is "New Page", then the type of break inserted should be a next page section break.
    This may be the key to my problem. So, I'll investigate when I've posted this. Thanks!

    >> I think you'll need a macro.
    That's where I ended up. By putting this line in the insert code, the problem gets fixed during the insert. The Next Page gets
    bumped back to a Continuous:
    Selection.PageSetup.SectionStart = wdSectionContinuous (that's from memory, so the syntax might not be perfect).
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    Re: Section Break Re-education (2002)

    Hi Kevin:
    Sorry for the delay. I had to go out for awhile. You are correct that you can have the header with one margin & the body with another by using a continuous section break. You just can't have a different header margin & body margin in the same section, & putting in a continuous section break changes the section. I guess I was isolating each statement. Since I use negative indents, I forgot about using a continuous section break.

    It seems that Word is hard coded to put the Header style in the header. I found that even if I created a Header2 style & put it in as a first page header & then closed the header without entering text, the paragraph mark disappeared. Oh well, another Word vagary. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>

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