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    Drive Image 7 Continued

    Today I received my package from PowerQuest, consisting of three CDs. So far, I've been UNABLE to get the PQRE CD to get going and I look for advice or agreement from other users. When I boot my system with the DI 7 CD I setup the IP number of my LAN machine and the number of the "gateway" machine, but I can't get past the screen for "WORKGROUP." My LAN workgroup name is NOT Workgroup and I can't find out how to make it aware of the name. I have put in the IP number of the machine that stores my images but still can't get to see the files from which to do a restore.

    If anyone else has any luck, I'd appreciate tutoring.....

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    Re: Drive Image 7 Continued

    Sorry I can't help look into that one for ya Sarge, cause I don't backup to a Network Hard Drive to duplicate it for ya. I will see what I can find on the net and get back to you.

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    Re: Drive Image 7 Continued

    Heres one more.

    Solution: How to Restore an Image Using the V2i Protector Recovery Environment (PQRE) CD

    To restore an image using the V2i Protector Recovery Environment (PQRE) CD, perform the following:

    1. Boot with the V2i Protector CD.
    2. When prompted to boot from CD, press any key on the keyboard.
    3. When the PowerQuest Recovery Wizard appears, click "Recovery Wizard."
    4. Click "Next."
    5. On the "Specify Source Image File" screen, click "Browse."
    6. In the "Filename" field, type the correct path to the image file.

    For example: servernameimages

    7. Press Enter or click "Open."
    8. Select the image you want to restore.
    9. Click "Open."
    10. On the "Specify Source Image File" screen, click "Next."
    11. On the "Select Destination" screen, select the partition you want to replace. This deletes the selected partition and restores the image to the resulting unallocated space.

    Alternately, you can select a partition and click "Delete partition." This deletes the selected partition and creates unallocated space.

    NOTE: If you receive the error "Destination is not valid," the unallocated space is not large enough to restore the image file.
    12. Click "Next."

    NOTE: If you previously verified the image file you are restoring, you can deselect the option to verify the image file on restore.
    13. Click "Next."
    14. Click "Finish" to begin restoring the image file

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    Re: Drive Image 7 Continued

    Found This DOC. Hope it is of some help.

    Solution: PQRE cannot see computer or network share where image file is stored (V2i Protector)

    To fix this problem:

    1. Create a local user account on the computer where the image file is stored. This user account must have local admin rights ONLY.
    2. Boot your server from the V2i Protector CD.

    If you have a DHCP server on your network, the Map Network Drive utility should run automatically.

    If you do not have a DHCP server on your network, you will first be asked to specify an IP address for your server. Once the PQRE main screen appears, run the Map Network Drive utility by clicking "Utilities," and then clicking "Map Network Drive."

    3. Click "Connect using a different user name."

    The "Connect As" dialog appears.

    4. In the "User name" field, type the IP address of the computer where the image file is stored, a backslash, and the user name for the account you created in step 1.

    For example, if the IP address of the computer you want to connect to is 216.10.202.17 and the user name you need to log on with is "V2i", then you would type: 216.10.202.17V2i

    5. In the "Password" field, type the password for the user account you specified in the "User name" field, and then click "OK."
    6. In the "Folder" field, type two backslashes, the IP address of the computer where the image file is stored, and another backslash.

    For example: 216.10.202.17

    7. Click "Browse."
    8. Browse to the machine and the share where the image file is stored, select the share, and then click "OK."
    9. Click "Finish."

    PQRE should now be able to see the computer and share where your image file is stored.

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    Re: Drive Image 7 Continued

    Here is some reading that also might interest you Doc. Sorry I used so much of this thread to make these post, but it would of been a pain trying to point you to this stuff.

    To mount computers located in other workgroups or domains, while running under the PQRE, you must already have "WORKGROUP" present on the network. It must also be authenticated to the domain by mapping the drive, so the WORKGROUP server is able to share across the network.

    - When you are working with a server cluster, none of the server's shared hard drives can be online during a restore from the PQRE. Therefore, when you need to restore a volume to a computer that is part of the cluster, make sure that all other servers in the cluster do not have exclusive rights to the shared storage; take all shared hard drives in the cluster offline, then perform the restore using the RecoveryWizard

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    Re: Drive Image 7 Continued

    Hi Cowboy:
    Where did you go to find this stuff? Thanks,

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    Re: Drive Image 7 Continued

    Did a search on the PowerQuest site, in a couple different ways, using different terms and words. And then narrowed it down to the ones above. I would have pointed him to them but it would of been a real pain.

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    Re: Drive Image 7 Continued

    Dang it, Cowboy, I didn't mean to make a researcher out of you - so THANK YOU for all that digging. When I wrote that post, had a bite to eat and sat down to watch the TV news, I went out like the lights!

    Jeez, I hope one of those first two works. If it's that LAST one and I have to change the name of my LAN to "Workgroup" just to get PQRE to work, I won't be happy 'bout that. I often wonder why so many places refer to the term "server" in a peer-to-peer network? I don't use DHCP for various reasons, but even if I did, there's no machine on my LAN that's a server! At least not in the manner that I think of a server. By the way, the "Training" CD that came in the package is real SCHMALTZ and I didn't have the patience last night to wade very far into it. Gotta give PQ credit for trying, but maybe they should've saved the money on this one.....

    Hey - thanks again for the diggin' Cowboy!

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    Re: Drive Image 7 Continued

    Big Al,

    Sorry I don't have an answer regarding your dilema (Cowboy took care of that), but since you (and others) have helped me on DI 2002 issues I wanted to let you know that DI 7 works just fine for me. Took me 14 minutes to back up 12 gb of data with no compression. Checked the restore and it worked fine also. Thanks for all your help!

    LMD

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    Re: Drive Image 7 Continued

    You're more than welcome! Unfortunately, the write-ups that Cowboy found don't seem to help. It appears that in order to use the PQRE by booting from the CD, if your images are stored on a network location, the workgroup MUST carry a name of "Workgroup" or the software won't see the share. I tried the tips that Cowboy found and as soon as you get to the point of hitting "Browse" to look for the share, the only thing it presents you with is a window looking for "Workgroup." When it can't find it, it just stops dead in its tracks. I've written a request to PQ Tech Support, but you know how that goes! Even if you put in the IP address (in my case 192.168.x.x) and the share name, it comes back empty. I don't know what would happen if you WERE using DHCP, which I can't do for various reasons. Funny thing is, the PQRE has a ping utility built in and if I ping the IP addresssharename it responds quite well. Go figure.....

    Well, it's certainly not the end of the world as we know it. As y'all probably realize, the only time you would have to use the PQRE would be if you need to restore the BOOT drive. In my case, I have all four drives in my backup machine in pull-out trays, so if push came to shove, I could take out the drive and do the restore completely from this local machine. It's an annoyance that PQ didn't make provisions for the user to ENTER his workgroup name, on a non-domain system, instead they "assume" that your workgroup name Is "WORKGROUP."

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    Re: Drive Image 7 Continued

    For what it's worth, Fred Langa's criticism of Drive Image 7 can be found here. I'm posting this for information only. I can't agree or disagree, having not tried DI7.
    Regards,

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    Re: Drive Image 7 Continued

    Good link, Phil and I'm glad you posted it. I was just gonna do the same thing, but it seems you never sleep so you beat me to it! Loungers: read Fred's "review," but.... I feel compelled to take a little issue with Fred Langa on this one. I have successfully used DI 7 four times now to make images of five partitions to a NETWORK destination drive, AUTOMATICALLY, and from WITHIN Windows XP Pro - none of which the previous versions could accomplish! I have checked the relative speed and sizes of the resulting processes and they are at least equal or better than previous versions. I have spot-checked the resulting images to make sure I could retrieve INDIVIDUAL files, if necessary, and that process still works as advertised! As indicated in this thread, I (and maybe others) am not completely happy with PQRE, their tech support and that's not ANY different than any other software on today's market - software publishers are not perfect and they probably will never be so.

    One of the first things Fred "complains" about is what he calls "bloat." S'funny but I would swear that I've seen him in the past make light of "disk space" issues, given the relatively low cost of today's large hard drives, but I'm not gonna go searching to prove that. I would just like to say that on MY installation, the Drive Image directory tree contains about 69 meg of files and that's not so bad given the pretty good size of my drives. Besides that, to PowerQuests fault, there is included in that 69 meg about 24 meg of German, French and Japanese "stuff" in three directories that could probably be deleted, but I haven't tried that yet.

    Sorry for the length of the post, but it's kinda like all the slamming of MS that goes on - I felt that a word of fairness to PowerQuest was in order here. Maintain your "buyer beware" stance also in checking out Fred's newly recommended replacement products. Fred's a human being and has his own opinions, and you know what "they" say about opinions.....

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    Re: Drive Image 7 Continued

    I used DI 6.0 to do my Drive Copys took between 20 and 25 min to complete. DI 7.0 did the same Drive Copy in 7min and 51sec. So I personally don't know what Fred Langa is talking about. The fact that the program is so large is because of all the things it does and as Doc said all the Lanugages it supports. And the programs Fred is offering in place of DI 7.0 does not do Images to Network Drives, nor does it do Drive Copys of OS and all Data. With todays Hard Drive Sizes and Large Programs, DI 7.0 isn't all that Bloated for all the options it gives you. I think Fred is just bored, and needed something to write about. But thats OK, we all can't be right all the time and Fred is no Different.

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    Re: Drive Image 7 Continued

    I believe a little followup is in order and a request to other DI 7 users if I may be so bold. I've had an email exchange going with PowerQuest support and they suggested essentially the same things Cowboy found for me, which don't do any good. So, after having made all those SUCCESSFUL and automatic backup images, I just really need to know whether this <img src=/w3timages/censored.gif alt=censored border=0> PQRE (booting from the CD) is gonna work or not. I just absolutely can't get the thing to let me see a share on my network, no matter what I do. Yesterday, in frustration, I renamed all the machines on my LAN to the workgroup called "WORKGROUP," and the damn PQRE still will NOT let me browse the network. Using the machine's IP address, with or without valid username doesn't work. I would like to ask a favor of anyone who HAS a LAN, whether you use it to store images or not, to boot from the PQRE CD and just for the heck of it, see if you can "see" a machine on your local network, preferably NOT a domain, but a workgroup. If their boot CD doesn't work, they need to be told by as many people as possible. Thanks gang, if you can experiment with (for) me, I'll appreciate it.

    P.S. A reminder that I DON'T use DHCP and have the machines on my LAN manually assigned their IP address, in case that makes a difference.

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    Re: Drive Image 7 Continued

    Hey Doc. Man I just ran Perfect Disk and did a Defrag, then Used DI 7.0 to do a Drive Copy { OS and all } 7GB of Data to my other Hard Drive { and by the way thats Duel Bootable}. It copied it in 5min and 35sec. Thats 21.72 MB per Sec. That is killer. It always took 20 to 30 min with DI 6.0. And DI 7.0 does it right from Windows. DI 6.0 had to boot to DOS to do that. I am amazed. I love it because I do the Drive Copy once a week or more if needed.

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