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    Software access (WinXP Home SP-1)

    Bought new PC bout 2 months ago w/WinXP Home, SP-1. Moving frm Win98. When installing new apps, often only family members with administrator privileges can run the software or save files, unless I install it to the shared documents folders. This was solution recommended by 1 vendor. All software is supposedly WinXP compatible. Icons for software show up in start menu for all users. Software just won't run, or won't let settings be changed or files be saved. Haven

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    Re: Software access (WinXP Home SP-1)

    Did you give them Administrator rights?

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    Re: Software access (WinXP Home SP-1)

    Typical vendor "solution". That is, get rid of the customer, as quickly and easily as possible, and never mind the complications. Installing apps in shared docs, may let them run more effectively for limited users. BUT, it will complicate your backup routines and expose the apps to possible inadvertent damage by users. Also, the only admin users you should have on the system are those to perform admin functions. That is, even for yourself you should have an admin and a limited account.

    My, only slightly better, solution is two-fold. First, install normally, in Program Files, as an administrator. Then, if the application doesn't work properly for limited users you can either share the install folder, or use a "hidden" admin user to run the app.

    To share, right-click the app's install folder,select "Sharing and Security...", tick "Share this folder on the network" and "Allow network users to change my files", and click OK. This makes the app vulnerable to users and exposed to the network (so make sure your firewall is set up properly). Depending on the app, you may be able to apply the share to just a settings or data folder within the app folder, limiting the exposures. You could also do lower level sharing just for individual files, if you're prepared to learn how to use the cacls command, but that can get a bit hairy and convoluted.

    The other option, using a hidden admin, involves creating an admin user to run he problem apps, and use TweakUI to hide the user from the login screen. Note that this admin must have a password. Then, right-click the app shortcut, click "Advanced...", tick "Run with different credentials", and OK out. Now when a user runs the app, it start with the "Run As" dialog, where the user needs to select "The following user:", and enter the hidden admin's user name and password.

    Neither of these workarounds is perfect, but they should overcome most non-compliant app problems. A third option may be needed for apps that are written as if they will only ever be run by a single user, is to do multiple installs, or copy the install folder multiple times. I had to do the latter with WinTidy so each user could store their own icon layouts, without affecting the others. After I installed WinTidy, I created a sub-folder in the app folder for each user, copied the app files into each of these sub-folders, and created a personal shortcut for each user, to start the app in their own sub-folder.

    nb Before doing any of the above, I have a good hunt around for alternative applications, properly written for the intended environment.
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    Re: Software access (WinXP Home SP-1)

    Thanks for advice. Will try suggestions.

    Software does work when other user accounts given administrator status. However, because this is family PC, don

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    Re: Software access (WinXP Home SP-1)

    I no longer use Quicken, but do remember that it never wanted to play according to the "rules" MS tries to have other developers comply with. I had grief with its peculiarities from win3.1 thru to win98, and that was part of the reason I switched back to my own setup in Excel.

    My eldest daughter has Sims on this PC and my other half likes to play it too (and I have to stress test it to make sure it works for them <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>). I tried using the "share" method at first, and it was OK until an expansion pack was added. In the end, we ended up with the "hidden admin" method, which works fine. The same approach was needed for SimCity 3000 too. Both are installed normally in Program Files, where they belong.
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