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    Windows Messenger (home)

    Had to reinstall XP and that annoying Windows Messenger icon is back in my taskbar. Cannot remember for the life of me how I disabled it before. If I recall it was in services in Msconfig, but would like to make sure I am disabling the correct item. Would someone be so kind as to jog my memory for me <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>
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    Re: Windows Messenger (home)

    Try this post.

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    Re: Windows Messenger (home)

    Thanks leif...thats the one. As an added FYI to anyone, it must also be disabled in OEX..tools, windows messenger, options..(see attachment), or it will just stay in taskbar after you close OEX...now when I close OEX at least it goes away. Now I just would like it to not open at all when launching OEX, but, oh well...life goes on, as they say <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15> don't sweat the small stuff.
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    Re: Windows Messenger (home)

    Hi, Victoria ~

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    Re: Windows Messenger (home)

    Hi Bruce
    <img src=/S/bravo.gif border=0 alt=bravo width=16 height=30> <img src=/S/clapping.gif border=0 alt=clapping width=19 height=23>
    Thank you very much <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>
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    Re: Windows Messenger (home)

    Windows messenger should not be confused with the messenger service. They are separate components.

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    Re: Windows Messenger (home)

    Just getting back to this question. Had a boot sector virus and well you know the rest. <img src=/S/brickwall.gif border=0 alt=brickwall width=25 height=15>

    Bruce: That last suggestion is not working. I had hoped it would!! When I open OEX the little man still pops up in my task bar.

    Lestat: Please explain (thanks). Your saying the messenger in Services, is not the same as Windows messenger??
    All I want is for that "pita" man to go away forever...I notice it slows down the opening of OEX (at least I think it does!).. <img src=/S/confused.gif border=0 alt=confused width=15 height=20>
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    Re: Windows Messenger (home)

    Victoria--

    The little man, to avoid confusion, is associated with MSN Messenger. Following the steps from
    1) sp computing guide or
    2) Richard Lecour's Rambling's will remove it (not the easiest color scheme to read on a web page), and eliminate any slowing of OE in doing so. The first method is a little shorter.

    The second you want it back, you can go here to msn.messenger.com (MSN Messenger Home Page) where the people behind the little man will be delighted to deliver him back to you forthwith.

    SMBP

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    Re: Windows Messenger (home)

    Hi, Victoria ~
    <hr><small>messenger in Services, is not the same as Windows messenger??</small><hr>
    Not by a long shot. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15> Please see <post#=243956>post 243956</post#>.

    As far as your OE, I forget to mention, you must also check 'When starting, go directly to my Inbox folder' on the 'General' tab of your OE options. Anytime it is set to open to the 'Outlook Express' heading in OE, it will start Messenger whether you have it disabled or not. Make sure you hit 'Apply' > 'OK', close OE, then right click the little guy in your systray and 'exit'. Now open OE and ~Voila~! no more annoying Messenger! <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>

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    Re: Windows Messenger (home)

    I think Bruce has it summed up pretty well in his link above.

    Yes, Windows (MSN) Messenger and the Messenger Service are completely different. The Messenger Service is what is utilized for annoying pop-ups by spam companies using the "net send" command at the command prompt. Windows Messenger is basically MSN Messenger designed for Windows XP.

    To Delete or Uninstall WIndows (MSN) Messenger from WIndows XP:

    1. Click Start -> Run
    2. Type the following in the text box:

    RunDll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection %windir%INFmsmsgs.inf,BLC.Remove

    3. Press <ENTER> or click OK.
    4. Restart Windows.

    This will not just stop it from loading, but completely remove it from your system. One of the first tweaks I do every time I reinstall.

    To disable the messenger service:

    1. Open the Services window (services.msc).
    2. Double-click the Messenger entry in the list.
    3. Click Stop to close the service.
    4. Select Disabled from the Startup type list to prevent it from loading automatically the next time Windows starts.
    5. Close the Services window when you're done.

    That should do you.

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    Re: Windows Messenger (home)

    <hr>"Windows Messenger is basically MSN Messenger designed for Windows XP."<hr>

    This first appeared in the late 90's to compete with AOL's IM. At one time, they MSN and AOL were making several releases every day to block the other from using each other from having access to the other. This then settled down and was included with Windows Me. It has been around a lot longer that Windows XP. The hooks and a newer version did come out with Windows XP, but since then there are updates for the other OS's.

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    Re: Windows Messenger (home)

    Lestat--

    That's (your post 275273) a mirror of the same command I posted about 4 hours earlier 4 inches above in Post 275616 in the first link sp computing guide tiltled "Remove MSN Messenger". And it "does it." Victoria can't go to the Microsoft Managment Console in XP Home--it's not in Home. (not that she'd have to anyway--the command suffices). I've used it to zap a lot of "msn messengers/instant messengers designed for XP"--the application Microsoft makes it hard to get rid of that Victoria doesn't want. Her problem has nothing to do with the messaging service you reference whose activation is controlled in the Microsoft Management Console/group policy editor that she doesn't have on her machine--it doesn't matter if you call it J-Lo as far as her getting rid of MSN messenger--the command does that and she doesn't need to use the MMC she doesn't have, a fortunate match.

    She has XP Home, and Microsoft regregtably didn't deal Home an MMC with the panopoly of features in Group Policy Management and Group Policy Editor to turn off the messenger service that is "enabled/disabled" in the MMC . If you aren't using that messaging service--and the semantic messenger boogie has been threaded 2-3 times in 4 months, has nothing at all to do with the problem posed by Victoria, then you bolster your security by disabling it in the MMC when you have one.

    330117: Running Both Windows Messenger and MSN Messenger 5.0 in Windows XP
    330117: How To Prevent Windows Messenger From Running on a Windowx XP Based Computer


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    Re: Windows Messenger (home)

    I'm sorry, I didn't check your links above. I also don't have Home, so was unaware of the differences there, thanks for the info. I was providing the messenger service information just for others who look at this page and wonder how to disable it, that's why I left instructions for that.

    And when I mentioned Windows XP, I was saying that "Windows" Messenger was designed for Windows XP. I know about the fued between AIM and MSN Messenger going way back, as a former AOL employee. You wouldn't believe the stuff I could tell you about the two of them that you don't read in magazines and on the internet.

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    Re: Windows Messenger (home)

    Hey smbp... what do you mean the Microsoft Management Console isn't in XP Home.

    I can Start --> Run --> "mmc <enter>" and volia! I'm running the Microsoft Management Console in XP Home.
    Christopher Baldrey

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    Re: Windows Messenger (home)

    That's what I thought. I planned on going home and checking myself. I wish people would research a little before they start flaming me over something like that.

    I also did a little research myself and found that it will operate in Windows 9x and NT as well, although it isn't included with it.

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