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    Registry questions

    I exported the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE key and am now getting ready reimport the changed file.
    During editing, I deleted everything except the keys I wanted to change, so now I have a file of 8 or 9 full-path keys each followed by all of its setting lines.
    Here's one such key:
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWAREClassesSoftwareMicrosoft MultimediaComponentsInstalledplayback_DefaultPlayl istFilesFile0]

    1. Is it true that I can safely import this brief file?
    2. Would reimporting a key without any settings wipe out the previous settings?
    3. Does the order of the keys in the import file matter. I am guessing that it would not.

    4. To do the edit, I had to search for all the "My Music" data-values. I couldn't get Regedit to search for phrases. Is there a way?
    5. Also, when I searched for "Music", Regedit-Find would not show me the key whose data it found. Is there a way?

    6. I got the impression, that values of '0' mean false or None, and '1' means true or yes. Is this correct?
    Thanks for your help,
    Al Gruber

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    Re: Registry questions

    1. Yes.
    2. No.
    3. No.
    4. As far as I know, RegEdit can search for phrases too, just enter the phrase into the search box.
    5. Have you selected View | Status Bar?
    6. In cases where True/False is appropriate, yes. In other cases it count just be a number, e.g. the number of recently opened files.

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    Re: Registry questions

    Agreed, but I have to point out that using the Search function in regedit is a nightmare. Look for a program called Registrar Lite (from www.resplendence.com). That has a useful registry search function.

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    Re: Registry questions

    Thanks Hans,
    Here's how I now see Import: It can add or modify keys or settings, but cannot remove anything.

    Question: If I export and change LOCAL_MACHINE AND HKEY_USERS, but not their aliases, will that cause a problem.

    As far as how Registry-Find works, here's what the book didn't tell me, that a beginner should know:
    1. Find takes a long time, at least with my 15M file, and gives no indication that it's ok. Don't quit. Bring a magazine.
    2. If you're searching for a value, look for the key on the status bar.
    3. If you look very closely, you'll notice that of the zillion folder icons on the screen, one is "slightly" open. That's the one.
    4. If you've found something, don't click any keys before you're done. The clicked key becomes the new status bar entry and you'll have to refind.
    5. I think the search may start at whatever root key is highlighted when you start. But it's not easy to tell and they certainly won't.

    Again, thanks.
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    Re: Registry questions

    Hi Al,

    I have never tried to export the complete HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE or HKEY_USERS hives; I don't know what would happen if you would try to import modified versions.

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    Re: Registry questions

    Like I said -- Regedit Find sucks for all of those reasons -- and more! Most importantly, it searches for ONE thing at a time -- you have to keep hitting F3...

    Advanced Registry programs (Like Registrar Lite -- freeware) give you a complete list of ALL matches and then you can pick and choose which one you want. You will never use Regedit to search again!

    You can modify the color of your open folder in Regedit -- mine is GREEN -- like Woody's little green folder. To do this, you must use an icon editor.

    If you Export any key, modify it, and then double-click on it, Regedit will MERGE the key with your registry. Merge means that it will:

    1) Not erase or delete any pre-existing key or value that you did NOT change.
    2) Over-write or modify any key or value that you DID change.
    3) Add any new keys or values that you created.

    Therefore, you should be able to Merge the file safely. I don't use the "Import" option, so I cannot give you information on that. Is Import "Merge" or is it "Replace" -- I don't know. I'll test it later.

    CAUTION: if you muck up your editing of the .reg file, andthen Merge it to your registry, you have mucked up your registry. This could be VERY problematic. Do this this extreme compulsivity.

    Side note: yes, regedit CAN be used to delete registry keys and values, but you have to know how to write the lines. Just Merging a .reg file in the registry should not inadvertantly delete keys or values.

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    Re: Registry questions

    I'm still wrestling with Regedit's Find. The reason, I guess, is that I'm too stubborn to give up, and besides, I can't believe that they're as bad as they are.
    Question: can it really be true that you can't search for a key?
    I read something that told me to check a certain key for a virus. I copied the key into their find box, but find couldn't find it. So I clicked my way down the tree, and there it was. The key, thank goodness, not the virus!

    Then, to protect against typos, I used Regedit's copy a key, and pasted that into find.
    This time, the find target was: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWARE@Home Network
    Find still couldn't find it, and was of course, excruciatingly slow.

    I had been assuming that Regedit only searches through whichever root key icon you click open. Just to make sure, I clicked on "My computer" this time, then ran the same search. Same no find.

    So, last check. Is it really true that you can't search for a key?
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    Coloring the Folder Icon

    I forgot this question in my previous post:
    What can you tell me about coloring the folder icon:
    where is it located?
    do I recognize it by name or is there a preview or what?
    can I use Paint or do I need an icon editor (and what might it be called)?
    Thanks, Al

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    Re: Coloring the Folder Icon

    Regedit's Find should be able to locate a key -- but you may have to put the words in quotes. Generally, I type in the most unique word in the key and just search for that. You should really look at other options if you plan to search in the registry frequently. Norton/Symantec products come with Norton's Regedit -- and it also is far superior at searching through the registry.

    The icon is inside the regedit.exe file. BUT... you have to open the file with an icon editor -- such as one from www.axialis.com -- and then simply edit the color of the icon. Not recommended for those who don't feel comfortable editing Windows executable files! And, I am not sure how kindly WinXP takes to editing these -- I am still on Win98SE...

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    Re: Coloring the Folder Icon

    Al

    I have not changed icons in exe files but I have edited *.ico icons, like the open folder icon.

    I have yet to find a true freeware icon editor, and since all I have ever done is a bit of color changing I think paying $30 for a lot of doubtless excellent features that I will never use is excessive. I like IconForge because it gives you a 21 day trial, and it only ticks off a day when you actually use it, not every day since you downloaded it; after a year or so I am only up to day 8 of my trial period.

    For truly free icon editing (assuming you have MSPaint), I have opened my *.ico icon in (free) IrfanView, saved it as a bitmap file, opened that in Paint, edited it, saved it, then back to IrfanView and converted it back to an *.ico file

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    Re: Coloring the Folder Icon

    Hi Mike

    You could try SnIco Edit and/or Iconoplasm. I believe both are free.

    Have a Great day!!!
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    Re: Coloring the Folder Icon

    Thanks Mike,
    Q: Some programs claim to "extract" icons from exe files -- is that what I want? After all, I don't really want to extract anything, just color it. If I "extract", is there a separate step to "resinser"?
    Thanks

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    Re: Coloring the Folder Icon

    R2,
    What I learned from your post is that I can search for KEY "banana" but not "Softwarebanana". Is that how it's supposed to work, one word at a time?
    Al

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    Re: Coloring the Folder Icon

    It's not especially one word at a time - you can search for Microsoft Excel, for instance, but you can't search for a path in the registry - what you search for has to be in one "line" in the left hand pane or right hand pane of the RegEdit window.

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    Re: Coloring the Folder Icon

    Back to coloring the icon in Regedit. According to the Iconoplasm guy, his program can extract icons from an exe file, but he knows of noone who can modify an icon inside an exe.
    The plot thickens.
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