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    News Groups (OE6)

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    When I first bought my pc, I could view the 'From' column in NGs area of OE6; or rather it showed who the messages were actually from. I've formatted my pc and now the 'From' column is there, but it shows no author. Can someone help me out? Is this something I did?

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    Jordan

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    Re: News Groups (OE6)

    Jordan--

    Which Operating System are you using? It can help determine what to do with IE6 which of course includes the files for OE6. And here's the point, if you're running 98 and above, you can use System File Checker. but four suggestons: ..

    1)Run System File Checker if your OS is above 95 and odds are it is:

    Put in your OS CD-Rom. At the dos-prompt type: "sfc /purgecache" (runs in seconds). After this type "sfc /scannow" Space after back slash and lose quotes. I'd put up the KB for SFC, but I don't know which OS you have. You may have to hit retry to move the progress bar a few times. It takes about 20 minutes to 25 minutes. It will replace files in IE, OE, and your OS that are corrupt, cannot hurt you, and is well worth doing as maintenance from time to time anyway.

    2) Try Shutting Off Auto-Compaction:

    When this happens, often there is a conflict between concommitant compacting (alliteration?) and other process occuring that blocks displaying of the contents of the "From column" whatever the real physiology here. The concensus of a lot of OE buffs is that compacting should not be run period. But it's a feature with discussions of how to use it and a help item in OE, so why should it cause problems? Good question. Try turning it off for a while to get back your contents, and then try running it again. If compacting is occuring at the wrong time, it can corrupt some of the stored folders needed to display "from contents." To shut off auto-compation:

    Tools>Options>Maintainance>Cleaning Up Messages>Uncheck Compact Messages in Background>Apply>OK.

    2) Reinstall OE6:

    Start>Run>In the run box type: "%SystemRoot%Inf." without the quotes. Locate the MSOE5.0 INF file (don't be spooked if you see 5 instead of 6--that's an OE trademark to retain the numbers from older versions in files and registry keys even in OE6SP1

    3) Update your IE6 andOE6 if you haven't already:

    Make Sure You have IE6 SP1. If not, try refreshing your files with the download which might replace the files.
    Download the OE6SP1 Update. This may not only fix you, but has among its features the convenient Ctrl+H that lets you immediately list all your posts and answers in a newsgroup. Saves time.
    Get 330994: The April 2003 cumulative patch for OE6. It has not been singled out as a problem causer.

    Hope this helps,

    SMBP

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    Re: News Groups (OE6)

    Wow! Thanks for replying, and in such detail too! I ran system file checker and everything was fine there. I went to the MS site and downloaded some updates, rebooted my pc, then uninstalled all of those plus IE and OE6, and wah lah! everything was fixed.

    I'm sorry for all of the trouble,

    Jordan

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    Re: News Groups (OE6)

    Jordan--

    It's not trouble. I learn from looking to fix things, and I learn a lot here from so many others. I was actually in the middle of posting links to all the IE/OE fixes that we've had in the lounge having to open them up link by link without search. One of the updates must have fixed you--that's great.
    Check out the "Ctrl +H" key combo if you use the newsgroups a lot. This came with the OE6SP1 update. It's faster than searching the group for a message--it will take you right to your message if say you haven't checked what you put up for a while. I also find marking a post I'm interested in red by going to the OE toolbar Messages>Watch conversation helps me find them.

    Two good future 'go to resources' for you:

    Inside OE Tomsterdam is Tom Koch's OE help site. He's Tom, and he lives in Amsterdam=Tomsterdam.

    Microsoft MVP Links
    When you click on a blue hyperlink for a "product" you'll get a number of links in each category, OE, IE, XP, Word to MVP's (experts in a certain area and their help website.) From some of these OE sites I've learned that OE and it's rules can be a lot more involved and tricky than I first thought.

    Tx for the feedback. Hopefully it'll run without a hitch from now on.

    SMBP

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    Re: News Groups (OE6)

    Well, thanks for the links too! I was reading a different post from you (I think) and found them <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15> It wasn't until I removed the updates that it started working. I think the second you log on, Windows decides to update you regardless if 'autoupdate' is enabled or not. That was really weird.

    I'm always browsing a few of the NG's and not real sure what ctrl+H does in there, but it threaded all of the emails in my In Box!! Now that was a kicker! I used to post in here a long time ago as Kiddo (I think) but I think they removed me or something, because it said it was invalid or something.

    I really like the board here, everyone is so helpful and the info you can glean is amazing. Enough to write a book....hmm....maybe that's where Woody gets his information, LOL, just kidding.

    Anyway thanks again,

    Jordan

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    Re: News Groups (OE6)

    Cool! You know your stuff! Thank you so very much!!!! I have another question about OE but regarding downloads, if you like you can reply in a different thread, not sure how that one works.
    Tia

    When I download something in OE and save it to a folder, is there any way to make it remember where I want it to go?

    Thanks again,

    Have you written any books? Your explainations are always so thorough and easily understood!

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    Re: News Groups (OE6)

    Supposedly you can control WU to notify you before any updates are actually downloaded. But if it annoys you, you really rarely have to use it and you can still easily be notified of every update out. I just go to it rarely and check updates because it has a lot of quirks (saying you need updates you already have is a frequent one.) I haven't seen it mention one I don't already have or know about--unless it is for an OS in a language I don't speak. Just "personalize it" and check it rarely. And here's why.

    In the case of Windows, IE, Office, any other MS software, including the server software 95% of what comes through Windows update is a security patch often in twos or threes. You can get an email linking you every release, including those for the servers (not separate but in the emails if they come out a given day) days or sometimes a couple weeks or more before they are available in most cases at Win Update) by "subscribing" to this (free):

    Patch Email Notification Service

    Hotfix Search by Product and List by Date

    Microsoft Guide to Security Patch Management

    As to the updates for anything else, say Win Media Player you're going to hear about it by just going to one site, Cnet News every day, and CNET will not miss them and will link you to every single security update anyway, and you can go to WU infrequently then and see what they list--it doesn't even have to bug or notify you.

    As to drivers. as you know from hanging in the ng's, WU gets them all mixed up frequently because its complicated mechanism for detecting and updating them has flaws not to mention that one of the drawbacks to plug and play for drivers is that Windows will often supply old drivers or generic drivers that are lesser quality that were out when the OS was launched, and there have been threads detailing this in the lounge--you're much better off going to the manufacturer or one of the many free driver update sites that do a great job of tracking them.

    Instead of jumping on every patch, I give it a couple weeks, even "critical" because MS holds them for a good while sometimes after they are notifying them--they even are exploring legislation that keeps people from publishing them--the best is they held on to a huge "PC Health file flaw in the C:Windows folder" for eleven weeks prior to the release of Win XP SP1 on November 9, 2002 that Leo Laporte broke on Tech TV--and published the file on his private site. The flaw made it possible that your entire hard drive could be wiped of all your programs and data if you just so much as clicked on the wrong web page. You didn't have to open up any executable or anything else.

    Since MS can hold and has held something like that and others for months at times anyway, after being notified of a flaw I can afford to wait a couple weeks to hear buzz here or in the ng's or Beta sites if there are slow downs or crashes ascribed to a particular patch before putting it on a machine--installing them one at a time so if side effects show up I can ID them and boot them.

    SMBP

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    Re: News Groups (OE6)

    Jordan--

    I want to help with "download something in OE and save it to a folder, is there any way to make it remember where I want it to go?" but give me some more detail/specifics. Are you talking about downloading mail messages or from newsgroups? Tell me what you want to download and where you want it to go. What's the "something"--mail messages or newgroup messages? I suspect you mean mail, because ng's are a real easy save.

    SMBP

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