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    HELP!

    My instincts tell me I'm OK, but my nerves say I'm scr---d...

    I was told by my hardware guy, who was replacing my CD burner (my grandson broke it), that my hard drive was bad and was going to fail... who knows when... S.M.A.R.T. test failed at start-up...

    SO... I backed up my hard drive on CD's, and went about checking and trying to verify...

    In the process I deleted all my partitions, expecting to re-set them after drive formatting or cleanup or...

    But when I went to re-define the partitions, FDisk only saw 8 gigs of my 30gig drive... with 13gig NTFS, and 17gig DOS partitions...

    SO... I poked around, with no success, but then thought I would try to just restore the partition from Ghost...

    The partition restored, but it wouldn't boot... said my hardware config was wrong... SO...

    I re-installed W2K, thinking it would "re-set" itself... BUT

    It installed a SECOND W2K install, and now my restored 13G partition is full -- with *2* installs...

    I could probably fix all this if my FDisk had or would recognize all 30gigs on my drive...

    But HOW do I get all this started/fixed?

    Frazzled....
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    Re: HELP!

    If FDISK is not seeing all your Hard Drive you might have to go into Bios and try to reset your Hard Drive. I have had to do that before when Fdisk was giving me the same kind of problem. It would not see all of my Hard Drive for some reason and when I went into Bios and reset it { had the Bios Scan for it} and then FDISK seen the entire Hard Drive. Of course that is if the Hard Drive has not gone bad. Now this may not work for you, but it worked great for me. Now it seems I remember having to unplug the Hard Drive and go into Bios and have it scan for A Hard Drive, because it could not find one it would clear the old Hard Drive Info from Bios, and then I pluged it back in and rebooted into Bios and had it scan again and refind the Hard Drive. After that I did the FDISK and it found all of it with no problems.

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    Re: HELP!

    To a mechanical dufus you give all this? Well, I'll try...

    Thanks, Cowboy.

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    Re: HELP!

    It is according to which BIOS you have but if you have your Motherboard Manual it will tell you how to setup your Hard Drive for Auto or User. Most the time they do a pretty good job of finding the Hard Drive with the Auto Setting, but if you notice it does not show the right size Hard Drive you can set it to User and enter the CORRECT information as To Size,Cyln and etc. On some you can Highlight "Primary Master" or where ever your Hard Drive is Located, and push enter and it will find it for you. But as I said I'm not sure which BIOS you have.

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    Re: HELP!

    Cowboy:

    My BIOS (AMI) needs upgrading... ordered it today... needs a board evidently... no chip or 'download' available. Probably the BIOS is too old...

    It's so weird, 'cause W2K (by itself) sees the drive, and partitions etc... and then FDisk sees the amounts correctly... but STILL shows the available as 8 gig... so I have a 13 gig partition on an 8 gig drive...?!

    New/ next step question...:

    If I format the drive, then install Win2K, telling it to leave the disk format alone, it "locks out" the whole partition except for 15 megs... with NO access to the Win2K files at all...

    This is new, 'cause I was poking around in DOS before... Is this part of my BIOS problem, or is it something I can control, or a NEW problem?

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    Re: HELP!

    <hr>My BIOS (AMI) needs upgrading... ordered it today... needs a board evidently... no chip or 'download' available. Probably the BIOS is too old...<hr>
    Did you order a new Motherboard?

    <hr>available as 8 gig... so I have a 13 gig partition on an 8 gig drive...?!<hr>
    Your loosing me here. Don't think I have ever seen this exact problem.

    <hr>locks out" the whole partition except for 15 megs... with NO access to the Win2K <hr>
    I'm afraid I don't understand. If you use FDISK and Format and then repartition your Hard Drive, and then load Win2000, I don't uderstand why it wouldn't work. Am I missing something?

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    Re: HELP!

    Cowboy:

    Your confusion was and is my answer...

    Thhis should NOT be happening...

    No, I ordered a BIOS upgrade... I *think* this is what's going on:

    The bios is totally confused, and not able to properly recognize the drive. Hence the 13gig partition, and only showing an 8 gig availability...

    At the same time, Win2K sees everything fine, and so it can partition, format and set up the partition size I set (13 gigs).

    The locking me out of the Win2K files and space? I think that that is because Win98/DOS depends at a lower level on the same info that FDisk does... in both cases coming directly from the hardware -- NOT the bios.

    So, until my upgrade gets here, I'll just have to pray that nothing serious happens again... and THEN, (with backup in hand), I'll re-define the partitions etc., so that Win2K, Dos, FDisk and the hardware are all sharing the same info....

    Strangest deal I've EVER come across...

    Bet the same could happen in Win XP -- they (XP and 2K) are relying on their own internal versions of the info -- fdisk inclusive)...

    Thanks,
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    Re: HELP!

    Be careful flashing the Bios. If not done properly it will cause your Motherboard to become worthless. Good luck and let me know how it goes.

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    Re: HELP!

    Cowboy:

    The good news / bad news:

    Bad first: it's not a flash, but an ISA board... dunno why... last time I got one from these people, it was the chip...?

    Good: therefore, no risk of "flashing" dilemas...

    Should be here in 3 days or so....

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    Re: HELP!

    OK I had no idea we were dealing with an older style Motherboard. Let me know how it works out for ya. Save some DNA from it, just in case this newer stuff don't work out and we need to reproduce the tried and true older style. <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>

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    Re: HELP!

    Don't make fun of us poorer folks...

    My wife, who's in the hospital, even from there makes it a point to ask me "what the h---" I spend so much time doing...

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    Re: HELP!

    Tell her your cleaning the house and doing laundry. <img src=/S/innocent.gif border=0 alt=innocent width=20 height=20>

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    Re: HELP!

    I tried that... she tells me if I quit screwing around, I could maybe find the means for a new pc... such a mean girl....

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