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    Clocks and Dupes (2002)

    For no discernible reason, two unwanted changes were made to my Outlook Calendar:
    1. There are now clocks on both sides of the appointments, even though my appointments don't specify a time. They all point to 1:00.
    2. More important - all of the appointments now stretch over two days. Those appointments that were already two days now stretch over three days.
    When I manually fixed some (but not all) of these many appointments, the clock disappeared - and on some occasions, so did the border around the item.
    Is there any way to undo this mess? I have a lot of items, especially since I added various special Holiday groups to the calendar. All of those Holidays now show as two days instead of one day.
    Also - why did this happen? I didn't do anything to cause it.
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    Re: Clocks and Dupes (2002)

    On the second point, are you sure that the Control Panel settings for Date/Time have not been altered? HTH
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    Re: Clocks and Dupes (2002)

    On your first question, what Calendar View do you use? For example, are you using a Week or Month View with View | Current View | Customize | Other Settings | Show Time as Clocks checked?

    On your second question, are these predominantly All-day Events (and multiple day All-Day Events) which were created before a switch in Time Zone or a switch to Daylight Savings? One Outlook Calendar annoyance with All-Day Events is that they attach from midnight to midnight, rather than attaching to the day, so that if there is a time zone or daylight savings change they all "go off" by the amount of the change.
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    Re: Clocks and Dupes (2002)

    Yes, as a matter of fact, I did change my Time and Date settings recently. Who would have thought that that would affect Outlook?
    I'm in Israel. I was told that Windows XP does not interpret Israel Summer Time correctly, so I changed the settings to pretend that I am in Baghdad.
    I never had any idea that it would affect my Outlook.
    OK, that is very likely to be the reason (and you are very wise to be able to realize it).
    Now, how do I undo the damage? I want all the date listings, including all the special holidays, to go back to their single-date status.
    Can it be done?
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    Re: Clocks and Dupes (2002)

    Hi, John,
    I use the Month View. Show Time as Clocks is not checked, but the clocks are still there! I did not specify the time on the Events, so it is as if they are All-Day Events. And yes, as I replied to Unkamunka in a previous message, I just changed my Time and Date setting a few days ago and assigned it to a different time zone. I had no idea that there was any connection between this and Outlook. It was very wise of you to realize the source of the problem!
    Is there any way that I can reverse the process?
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    Re: Clocks and Dupes (2002)

    As JohnBF pointed out, the coding in Outlook does not recognise a day as a separate entity. It only sees Midnight to Midnight.

    You have the <img src=/S/bummer.gif border=0 alt=bummer width=15 height=15> difficult choice of either having your Windows clock wrong (that is, changing your Control Panel settings back) or changing all your appointments.

    Unless your appointments are by far the most important thing on your computer, you may find it simpler to go throught the "one-off" pain of changing your outstanding appointments. If you are having to deal with recurring appointments, you can change an entire set by simply changing one of them - watch for the "how do you want this change to apply?" dialog which will come up after you have made the change.
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    Re: Clocks and Dupes (2002)

    That sure seems like a major bug!
    OK, is there a way that I can just delete EVERYTHING on Outlook calendar in one command? If so, I'll just make a copy of my appointments, and then I'll type them back in, as well as the local Holidays.
    One more thing. Did I do anything wrong by changing the date and the time? Isn't that why that option is included in Windows? And don't the same people who make Windows (MS) also make Outlook? How could such a bug exist?
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    Re: Clocks and Dupes (2002)

    Seems a bit <img src=/S/smash.gif border=0 alt=smash width=30 height=26>drastic!

    If you really do want to delete all your appointments, try <UL><LI>switching to Month in the Day/Week/Month view. <LI>highlighting the entire time period during which you have set appointments. I suggest holding your left mouse button down in your left hand and pressing the Page Down key repeatedly with your right hand as one way of doing this.<LI>using the Delete key - near Page Down - to delete everything.[/list]Outlook is one of those applications that Microsoft released in a great rush. Even though that was about 7 years ago, they still don't really seem to have sorted out all the features so that they work "properly". For end users, such as you and me, the compounding factor is that - even with all these drawbacks - a product has yet to emerge that can combine time and email management anywhere near as comprehensively. (People are still working on alternatives, though.)

    HTH
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    Re: Clocks and Dupes (2002)

    I can't think of a reason for the issue with the clocks displaying, unless it's related to the issue with the time change - perhaps UnkaMunka or another Lounger will be able to spot the problem.

    I really, really, get annoyed by the fact that all day events don't attach to the day, they attach from Midnight to Midnight, you are not alone in being taken aback by this, um, "feature".

    Deleting all your Appointments is a bit drastic, there is one other manual way you -might- consider; it's a little tedious, but not too bad if you don't have a huge number of appointments. Click on Calendar, and Select View, Active Appointments. Click on the 'Start' Title and the appointments will sort by start date and time. Then, only for the period of daylight savings, you can manually edit those start times back to the correct period. (It's always worthwhile to try all the different views Outlook offers, a number of them make for faster editing. Took me a few years to learn to try different views, courtesy of other Loungers.)

    If you can let us know what the start and end dates for daylight savings time for 2003 in Israel are, we might be able to cobble some quick VBA code that will go through the appointments, but I can't commit to it myself due to a heavy work load.
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    Re: Clocks and Dupes (2002)

    JohnBF's post 278605 - with its chat about Views - managed to remind me about your clocks issue. You must have changed a setting. Go to View|Current View|Define Views (at the bottom). Accept the default (Current View Settings), choose Modify|Other Settings and uncheck the "Show time as clocks" box(es). Don't forget to choose the Apply View button on your way back out of the dialogs.
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    Re: Clocks and Dupes (2002)

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    Chat? <img src=/S/hushmouth.gif border=0 alt=hushmouth width=16 height=16>
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    Re: Clocks and Dupes (2002)

    So what does
    <hr> I can't think of a reason for the issue with the clocks displaying<hr>
    in <post#=278605>post 278605</post#> mean?

    I originally remembered you as having dealt with the clocks issue earlier in the thread. <img src=/S/confused.gif border=0 alt=confused width=15 height=20> Indeed you did! <img src=/S/shrug.gif border=0 alt=shrug width=39 height=15> AFAIK there IS no other setting.
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    Re: Clocks and Dupes (2002)

    Sorry, it was my obscure inferential tangential way of saying "If there is another reason for the clocks appearing than that setting, I don't know what it is." I think that I have seen the little clocks in an Appointment (not an All-Day Event), but I can't find a way to make them appear, so I thought someone else might know.
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    Re: Clocks and Dupes (2002)

    Thank you, John.
    The reason I wanted to delete everything is as follows:
    I don't have that many appointments - less than 100. However, they are all wrong anyhow, since the change "stretched" 1-day appointments into two days, and 2-day appointments into three. I will have to fix all of them manually anyhow.
    The big pain in the neck is the holidays. I had added two sets of holidays, and they were all duplicated as well. Those holidays stretch several years ahead, and they are all wrong.
    That's why I thought it would be easiest just to delete everything, to type in the appointments, and to ask Outlook to put back the Holidays.
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    Re: Clocks and Dupes (2002)

    Thank you, Unkamunka (I wonder what that name means!)
    Show time as clocks is unchecked. I never checked it. All the clocks show as 1:00.
    I think I located some secret bug that nobody else has ever encountered!
    However, when I manually correct an entry (so that it does not stretch over two days), the clock usually goes away
    Strange!
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