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    USB 1.0 vs USB 2.0

    Could someone tell me what the difference is between these and how you can tell what you have?

    I am looking at some USB-connected external hardware and a lot of them say USB 2.0 only now - but I don't know what my PC has currently, how to find out, or what I would need to do to upgrade it?

    I have 2 USB ports built-in to my 2-year-old PC plus a 4 port external hub ...

    Many thanks in advance!
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    Re: USB 1.0 vs USB 2.0

    Beryl

    Two matters here, hardware and software.

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    If your machine is two years old, the USB ports are extremely likely to be 1.1.
    Any USB 2.0 device will run at USB 1.1 speeds.
    You can buy an add-in USB 2 controller card (assuming you need the extra speed).

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    Only Windows XP SP1 (Technet 312370) and Windows 2000 (Technet 328580) supports USB 2.0 (anyone disagree??), so anything else will run at USB 1.1 speeds.
    You will be pleased to know that Windows 2000 doesn't support more than 5 USB hubs in a chain.
    Reading Technet 263218 will put you off USB in Windows 98/98SE/ME! There is no support for USB anything in NT, except via third-party drivers (and good luck!)

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    If you have XP, navigate Start => Control Panel => Administrative Tools => Computer Management => System Tools => Device Manager => Universal Serial Bus controllers, and there will be some information there for you, I hope!
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    Re: USB 1.0 vs USB 2.0

    Thanks, John, I'll try that when I get home - I have WinXP (sort of - see my post in the WinXP forum from last week!) so I presume I should be able to run anything I've got ... if you see what I mean!

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    Re: USB 1.0 vs USB 2.0

    John, I checked the Control Panel as you suggested and did indeed find a selection of USB items listed, but I still can't find anything anywhere to tell me whether it's 1 or 2! The driver version is 5.1.2600.0, if that helps, but there was nothing else I could see..

    Where should I look from here, please?

    Ta muchly
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    Re: USB 1.0 vs USB 2.0

    Beryl,

    If you have a copy of SiSoftSandra, it will tell you the USB info, under Mainboard Information, USB controllers. You can download a copy from http://www.sisoftware.co.uk/sandra.

    Also if you know your MB manufacturer, you can get this information from them, of course. <img src=/S/compute.gif border=0 alt=compute width=40 height=20>

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    Re: USB 1.0 vs USB 2.0

    Beryl - I would agree with John. If your mobo is two yrs old, then it is providing USB v1.1. I checked my driver version and it is exactly the same as yours and I know from my mobo documentation that I'm running USB 1.1

    Since the primary difference is between 1.1 and 2.0 is speed, it should not be a big deal as long as you use the USB connections for keyboards, mice and printers. But if you're going to use the USB connections for additional hard drives or optical drives, then an upgrade would make sense.
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    Re: USB 1.0 vs USB 2.0

    If it doesn't say USB 2.0 anywhere, then it must be 1(.1). Logically, they would never have know that there was going to be a USB 2, would they?! It might have been called USB2002, or something like that...
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    Re: USB 1.0 vs USB 2.0

    Wow! Thanks for all the help, everyone!

    John - yes, I would say your logic holds up - if it doesn't specify the version it's going to be the first one, in this case 1(.1).

    So what would an upgrade involve? A downloaded software driver? And would my current hub be upgradeable that way? Or do I need a whole new hub?

    All the help is much appreciated!
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    Re: USB 1.0 vs USB 2.0

    Beryl: As you know, just plugging a USB2 device into your current USB1 ports is not the solution. You will have to provide USB2 ports to get the benefit of the updated technology. Good news is that adding a new USB v2 port(s) to your system is very simple. You just need an available PCI slot.

    Also, any current USB1 devices you may already have can still be used in your original mobo provided USB1 ports or you can plug them into the new v2 ports (as it would be backwards compatible).

    Here's a link to an upgrade pkg. I'm not suggesting this particular one (it was just easy to find). Adaptec and Belkin are just two of the many suppliers of such upgrades. I've seen prices for the PCI card and hub for US$49 / $59. Example
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    Re: USB 1.0 vs USB 2.0

    Ricky, thanks for the info - I'll post back on how I get on when I get a moment to follow it up.

    Just out of curiosity, though - I gather 'mobo' refers to a computer or PC, but what's its derivation, please?! I've been looking at it and I can't see for the life of me where the word could have come from!

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    Many thanks!
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    Re: USB 1.0 vs USB 2.0

    Mobo is computerspeak for motherboard <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>

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    Re: USB 1.0 vs USB 2.0

    Beryl

    For example, on dabs put "USB 2.0 PCI card" into the Search field, and you'll get a bunch of these priced from
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    Re: USB 1.0 vs USB 2.0

    My mobo has only USB 1.1 built-in. To use an external USB 2.0 hard drive enclosure, I got an USB 2.0 PCI card for free after rebate. The result was not very promising. It took 160 seconds to copy a 480MB wav file from local drive to the external HD. It took only 25 seconds for my friend to do the same job on his PC with built-in USB 2.0 port. He jokes me having an USB 1.5.

    Maybe the USB 2.0 PCI card I am using does not perform well. However, for transferring smaller size of files, I don

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    Re: USB 1.0 vs USB 2.0

    Dennis,

    Just having a USB 2.0 card does NOT give you 2.0 performance.
    The devices on the 2.0 hub have to also be USB 2.0 capable or you just run at 1.1 speed. <img src=/S/bummer.gif border=0 alt=bummer width=15 height=15>

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    Re: USB 1.0 vs USB 2.0

    The device on the UBS 2.0 PCI card is an USB 2.0 hard drive enclosure . My friend is using the same enclosure as I do (we exchange files by swapping enclosures). Is the 3.4MB/sec speed I get higher than the USB 1.0's 12Mbps speed?

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