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    OE vs Outlook (MSO2K)

    Strange app linking:

    If I set Outlokk as my default mail & news, the in OE, neither mail nor news are set as default, but I can set OE as the default for either mail and / or news...

    But in Outlook, if I then go through the menu to "News", it LOOKS like OE, and it shows as the default news prog, but will not let me change the mail default.

    Looks like OE through Outlook, but is it?

    They share the same options, address book etc., and yet it seems, different rules.

    What gives?

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    Re: OE vs Outlook (MSO2K)

    Hi Chuck--

    "But in Outlook, if I then go through the menu to "News"

    Not sure what you're saying here, and more importantly what you want to do and can't-- but I can tell you there is no newsreader in Outlook. What may be confusing you is that Outlook uses the newsreader that is a component of Outlook Express. I don't know what you want to do, and if you will say what you want to set up, I'll try my best to help. I'm going to toss you a few OE/Outlook articles, and remind you if you're using OE6 y ou should update it to OE6 SP1 using this KB:

    331923: OLEXP: An Overview of the Cumulative Update for Outlook Express 6.0 SP1

    296953: OLEXP: Cannot Access a Store Folder in Outlook Express When Importing

    257824: OL2002: Differences Between Outlook and Outlook Express

    Microsoft Outlook vs. Outlook Express

    196348: OL2000: (IMO) How Do I Share Information Between Outlook and OE

    222265: OL2000: Outlook Express Rules Not Imported After Outlook Upgrade

    <A target="_blank" HREF="http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;242537">242537:
    OLEXP: How to Use Outlook 2000 Contacts in Outlook Express 5</A>

    287684: OL2002: Installing and Using the Outlook Newsreader Which is the Outlook Express Newsreader--(There is only one in these two Microsoft products!)

    If you will rephrase clearly what you want to do, I will try to help you do it--or maybe someone else knows.

    SMBP

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    Re: OE vs Outlook (MSO2K)

    SMBP:

    I'm not too sure *what* I'm trying to do... outside of understanding... I just find it interesting (confusing?) that the options available are not the same or indicative of the "sharedness" of the reader...

    My current version of OE is 6.00.2800.1123... and Update doesn't indicate any need for an update... do/should I?

    OTR: any opinion of use of OE for news *through* Outlook as opposed to alone?

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    Re: OE vs Outlook (MSO2K)

    SMBP:

    In reflection:

    When I first started getting into newsgroups, I went the Agent route. Although a good program, it perturbed me that communication(s) were totally separate from my "other" email... so I started looking around...

    And it seems that the same is true with the Outlook or EO solutions as well... but here you at least can "easily" import if need be...

    My goal? Integration of my email and news functions. At least as much as possible.

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    Re: OE vs Outlook (MSO2K)

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    My goal? Integration of my email and news functions. At least as much as possible
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    Answer: Use Outlook Express.

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    Re: OE vs Outlook (MSO2K)

    Bob:

    That being the case, is there any 'automatic' way to have the resulting mail(s) imported/combined into Outlook? I *think* not, without a macro maybe?

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    Re: OE vs Outlook (MSO2K)

    Chuck,

    I don't think so either.
    I stopped using Outlook a long time ago and have been doing fine with just Outlook Express, so I can't answer for sure. Maybe some other Lounger that uses Outlook can come up with something. <img src=/S/crossfingers.gif border=0 alt=crossfingers width=17 height=16>

    Meanwhile, I'll check around to see if I can find out.

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    Re: OE vs Outlook (MSO2K)

    Chuck--

    The only news reader I'm using right now is the one in OE--it works well particularly I like the SP1 update feature that you can list all your posts in a group by hitting Ctrl + H. Believe me you can tweak OE--there are tweakers and there are sites that dig deep. Try all the MVP sites including Tom Koch's Tomsterdam to see some of the add on free utilities and nuances. I'm with Bob--it works fine as a newsreader--fine for email--and you can use Help in OE to see how quickly you can tweak it's interface, color, rules can get involved.

    I have something else that uses .net functionality to drag in hundreds of newspapers and list them that I like a lot, because it will go out an grab an amazing numnber of whatever you want. But I wouldn't classify it as a newsreader.

    Let us know what it is you want to do--plenty of people can help. I don't have experiences with many newsreaders, or perspective to be able to compare/contrast newsreader features, but people on the lounge do. If you have any problem setting up OE to read news, holler. There are an infinite number of screenshots to do this at every ISP site and every college campus site. MS has a KB on it.

    If you look at Help for each of them, and go to the OE sites and Outlook sites--just google OE Microsoft, Outlook Microsoft home pages--you'll get plenty of help.

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    Re: OE vs Outlook (MSO2K)

    If there is something special you want to do or things, put them up. If it takes a macro, maybe someone will show it to you.

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    Re: OE vs Outlook (MSO2K)

    SMBP:

    With the last link you gave, I'll take a look for "tweaks"... although admittedly, I'm new enough that "learning how and what" I think is a far more accurate description...

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    Re: OE vs Outlook (MSO2K)

    Outlook Express Support Center

    Step by Step Instructions and How Tos Outlook Express

    Good place to start, and the vast majority of people who want to know about things IE and XP never touch Help. Help for OE does a decent job. Tomsterdam has a number of FAQ's that are not in the advanced tweaking category, but in the basic learning curve/clear up category.

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    Re: OE vs Outlook (MSO2K)

    Thanks, SMBP... I'm headed there now...

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    Re: OE vs Outlook (MSO2K)

    One more tip I've found helpful, Chuck--with respect to getting started with OE, and components of Office, hundreds of universities and companies put tutorials on the web with abundant screenshots, and particularly Outlook and OE because of their wide use are covered at beginning and some intermediate levels. Just going through the index of "Help in" OE and some of the KB's doesn't take that long--and can clear up a some areas.

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    Re: OE vs Outlook (MSO2K)

    That's a *good* idea...

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    Re: OE vs Outlook (MSO2K)

    It is particularly true of Office components and OE for colleges and jobs--

    "They want the people to leave the IT guys to worry about bigger system issues than the individual learning curves I think, but of course the individual learning curves are also the bigger system issues."

    Was it Ben Franklin or Ben Afleck who said that? One of those Ben's.

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