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    CD burning - file problems

    I thought I had totally overloaded my desktop with graphics, so I burned a couple of CD's worth of graphics and files, which
    seems to have helped. Now, when I try to use some of the files on the CDs, I find they're all "read only" and cannot be moved.
    I tried reassigning the file-types, but they wont change. I tried cut and paste to get a small program moved over, and got a
    screen that said it could not (or would not) move the file........or ANY files. I could get the file right-clicked and it would accept
    the "archive" box clicked, but when I wanted to use the file, this screen came up. Then, it got to the point that I couldn't get rid
    of this screen (Windows cannot move this file), and it effectively locked up the computer. I had to shut it down with the main
    switch, and the next thing that happened was that I couldn't get the modem to work! I did a scandisk, uninstalled and reinstalled the modem, and it worked once, but the next time I logged on, I had to do all that over again.
    QUESTIONS: Is it normal for files to be "frozen" in their CD location? If not, how do I get them to move?
    Have I pulled a dumb-ass move, and do I have to format or something for my troubles?
    To top all this off, after I wrote and said I solved my problem, the bloody IE6 locked up when I tried to display a graphic!
    Arrrggghhh. BTW, the Windows Troubleshooter told me that it could not help me - - Aint Microsoft wonderfull??????

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    Re: CD burning - file problems

    You can't move files around on a CD that I know of. You can copy them to to your Hard Drive, change them around the way you want and burn them back to the CD. Nero has a program called INCD that allows you to format a CD to be used like a Floppy to were you can overwrite files.

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    Re: CD burning - file problems

    Being long-winded, I probably obscured the description..... It is moving the files from the CD to the desktop that's giving me
    fits. The only way (after some trying) was to insert the CD, then open the file there, and try to work from it. Trying to update the CD was part of the problem. Trying to remove the program from the CD is when I got the screen telling me that I couldn't move a file. I hope that's a little clearer? (Probably not).
    Thanks for the help in the past. I will look into that program you mentioned - sounds like what I need. Also, I obviously got the modem working again by uninstalling/reinstalling, and clearing a Kernel32 page-fault. God, I love Microsoft

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    Re: CD burning - file problems

    <hr>...It is <big>moving</big> the files from the CD to the desktop that's giving me fits... <hr>
    Like Cowboy said, CAN'T be done. The key word is "move." Once on the CD, files can only be COPIED to another destination. And even then, their attributes will be READ ONLY but can be changed once a file is on a hard drive.

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    Re: CD burning - file problems

    OK, first off you must realize that there are CD-R and CD-RW discs. If you burn files on to a CD-R disc, the files are there to stay. You cannot modify them or move them -- they will always be there. You can, as everyone has pointed out, COPY the files. A "read-only" file can still be copied...

    (As a side-note that will probably only add to the confusion, you can, eh, sort of "delete" a file on a CD-R. This involves editing the CD-R's "table of contents" and telling it to ignore the file. The file still exists on the CD-R -- it still takes up physical space -- but your computer will never see it. BUT, forget about that for a second...)

    So, CD-R disc can be written to and copied from, but it cannot be 'erased'. Many times, CD-R's can only be written to at "one session" -- depending on your software. So, once you write the CD you cannot write to it again.

    Other, more complicated software programs may allow you to write to the same CD-R disc in several sessions -- eh, 'Multi-Session' writing. The disc can be added to until you specify to 'close' the disc. Once you close the disc, you cannot write any more data to it.
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    Next, we move to CD-RW writing. Programs can write to CD-RW's discs in several ways. First off, a CD-RW disc can be used in much the same way as a CD-R disc -- in Single-Session or Multi-Session burns. The files are still "read-only" and cannot be dragged&dropped or cut&pasted. It works just like a CD-R -- except you can erase the entire disk and start over. That is how most CD-RW programs work.

    But... then there is "packet writing" software. This is a very different process of writing to CD-RW disks -- and only ONE packet writing software can exist on one computer at any given time. Nero's version is called "InCD", Veritas has a version called "DLA" (Drive Letter Access) -- to name two.

    The CD-RW discs must first be formatted to use the packet writing softawre. Once they are formatted, the files can dragged&dropped, cut&pasted -- just like any other drive on your computer.

    What is the downside to packet writing?? The discs can ONLY be used on computers that are also running the exact same packet writing software. So, a disc made with Nero's InCD cannot be used on a computer running Veritas' DLA -- or a computer that does have packet writing software installed and running.

    Now, I have heard about packet writing software that includes a mini-version of the program on the CD -- so that the CD can be used on other computers. Veritas does not offer that, but Nero might -- I use Veritas. However, I have no idea how these things "play toghether". If I stick a Nero InCD disc into my Veritas DLA computer, I am told the disk will NOT work even if the mini--version of the program is on the disc. Haven't tried it yet...

    HTH.

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    Re: CD burning - file problems

    OK - thanks for the help so far. Maybe I should just ask.....How do you use your .exe files that have been moved to a CD?
    Now, I'll shut up and listen.

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    Re: CD burning - file problems

    Hi Rabee

    Install Nero InCD or Adaptec's Direct CD (I use Direct CD with no problems). Both require special formatting of the RWCD.
    You can now read, write, copy, move, run, shortcut to, etc. your files on the RWCD.
    Note: you can run your executable files directly from the RWCD. You can even put a shortcut to them on your desktop. Of course, the RWCD MUST be in the appropriate drive.

    Have a Great day!!!
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    Re: CD burning - file problems

    <img src=/S/hello.gif border=0 alt=hello width=25 height=29> If its of any help, I use both Roxio and Adeptec on different machines, both are happy to "talk" to anything I have copied or downloaded directly to the CD-RW provided the CD-RW was formatted first. I run exe's from my cd directly and they work just fine. The folks in here have clarified everything for you very well. Dont worry, I had confusing problems when first using my burner but these terrific people put me right. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>

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    Re: CD burning - file problems

    Are you able to play CD-RW that was written using the Adaptec packet-writing software (DirectCD) on a computer without the software?

    "DirectCD" is the packet writing program used by both Roxio and Adeptec -- so it is little surprise that they can be used together -- they are the same thing! But... see if you can play a DirectCD CD-RW disc on a computer using Nero's InCD or Veritas DLA -- that is the issue.

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    Re: CD burning - file problems

    <img src=/S/hello.gif border=0 alt=hello width=25 height=29> Hi R2, Ive not had access to a machine running Nero or alternate programs to Roxio coz I tend to load what I know will work and most of the CD-RW machine's I use have Roxio as their software program. Never fear, I will test the theory as soon as I locate a machine that does not have Roxio, I suspect, as you have mentioned, that my stuff may not work on other CD-RW programs. Thanks to you folks I learned a while back to expect this to be likely. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>

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    Re: CD burning - file problems

    It depends... I have been told that some packet writing programs can make their disc readable on computers that don't have the software -- and I want to see if Roxio's can do that! Thanks.

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