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    Woody's Windows XP Dummies Books (Windows XP Home; Ver. 5.1, SP1)

    This is more a book question than a software one, but I'd really appreciate some loungers' input!

    I'm a new (3 weeks) user of Windows XP Home, just learning my way around it (new computer; previous system was on Windows 95). Just purchased Woody's latest book, "Windows XP Timesaving Techniques for Dummies", after much deliberation between it and his earlier one, "Windows XP All-in-One Reference for Dummies".

    Question: Do you think I need the reference one as well as the techniques one? Cost is a factor, but having all the info I need is even more of a one! I am a fairly long time computer user (since 1987), but not a very tech-aware one! Hoping some other Woody's fans can share their experiences on this topic!

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    Re: Woody's Windows XP Dummies Books (Windows XP Home; Ver. 5.1, SP1)

    Linda--

    I'd do this:

    You have one of Woody's. Add this to your library David Pogue: Windows XP Home (O'Reilly). If I had to add another it'd be between Windows XP Annoyances by David Karp (that's also a helpful site with a nice registry guide for begginers, fora, and tips and the excellent Windows XP in a Nutshell.
    You can always buy some of the thick books later if you need them, but I wouldn't underestimate the strength of these O'Reilly books--they are on every book website including O'Reilly's and Amazon, and in every good sized bookstore.

    Here's why I like these books: They can get across some deeper power user techniques to a beginner in language that is easy for them to understand and down't put them off--then if they want to read more on a subject they can surf. They will let you get a lot done with XP.

    You can go through Woody's archives and quickly read or shortcut his old newsletters for tips. Both his Windows XP and his Windows newsletters will help you--now they're combined.

    Here are a few sites that will help you become a stronger user, and particularly every once in a while with Kelly's go to the A-Z section and pick out a topic to read. You'll pick up a lot of conveniences. She has links to other good XP sites as well on there and 15 divisions.

    Kelly's Korner
    Kelly's XP A to Z
    Elder Geek (only name has to do with age)
    Jim Eschelman's Site and KB Links

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    Re: Woody's Windows XP Dummies Books (Windows XP Home; Ver. 5.1, SP1)

    SMBP,

    Thanks for the plentiful advice and suggestions. I'm going to check out all your suggestions and links. Your advice re. getting more of Woody through his newsletters was a good one: I subscribe to all his relevant ones and so this would not be difficult for me to do.

    Looking into the other sites you suggested will sure give me lots of info and varied approaches. Sure hope Woody won't be insulted at my disloyalty!!

    Thanks for taking the time to provide so detailed a "library" for me. :-)

    Linda

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    Re: Woody's Windows XP Dummies Books (Windows XP Home; Ver. 5.1, SP1)

    Linda,

    It all depends on how deeply you wantwish to get in the OS and it's many cross-channels and features. I usually purchase the huge tomes like Windows XP Inside & Out or others of the 1500 page ilk, because I enjoy digging into and tweaking and changing the basic OS.

    If you don't intend to go that far, you can, as SMBP suggested, get along with the basic books and go to the various sites ( including the Lounge ) to get answers to specific questions as they arise. <img src=/S/chatter.gif border=0 alt=chatter width=38 height=16>

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    Re: Woody's Windows XP Dummies Books (Windows XP Home; Ver. 5.1, SP1)

    Hi Bob,

    Appreciate your added comments. For now, you're right, I'll probably stick to the basics for now - OS tweaking is way too scary for me at this stage! Have just ordered the Pogue book to go along with the Woody's one and I'm really looking forward to delving into both of them as I get up to speed on XP.

    Thank you for taking the time to write!

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    Re: Woody's Windows XP Dummies Books (Windows XP Home; Ver. 5.1, SP1)

    You haven't been disloyal to Woody--he knows there are other books. By all means it's a good book-- and written very clearly on purpose so that everyone can understand it--just learning to search for over a thousand icons hidden in XP because of that book was worth the price, but don't tell him. I plunked down cash for every book he has written all the way back to his O'Reilly book on Outlook '97 if for no other reason than Woody wrote them and I could find things to extrapolate up to newer versions of Outlook and Office--and they are all very good. If he writes it and I can find it, I'll read it. There is a wealth of info in each of the books.

    But on the premise of a budget which I understand well for so many books per so much time, I just thought that the approach in David Pogue's books which are very popular--the manual that should have come with the PC is the motif--he writes many O'Reilly books for Windows and Mac applications like IMovie, including one for Windows users who are learning to use the Mac.

    The two other O'Reilly books by David Karp, Tim O'Reilly and Troy Mott XP in a Nutshell and XP Annoyances by David Karp are a great help to me--in unhiding some of the Windows areas that are a little more unfamiliar connected to the ones that are.

    He has a sale on 50% off at www.pogueman.com and is the lead writer for the Thursday section of the NY Times called Circuits which you can read free on the web along with the Times every day if you like.

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    Re: Woody's Windows XP Dummies Books (Windows XP Home; Ver. 5.1, SP1)

    SMBP,

    Your message made me feel better. Like you, I really like Woody's books and his easy to understand approach to issues. Also rather like his irreverent attitude to Microsoft, not to mention his wonderful and free newsletters!

    The Pogue book, however, sounds like exactly what I need as a "basic" one, after reading your comments and the sample chapter plus reader and critics' reviews on the Web site you provided. Am greatly looking forward to its arrival in the mail this week!

    Appreciated your advice because you covered both my concerns: knowledge and budget! Thanks again.

    Linda

    PS Have saved your last 2 links, too! And your messages, with all their suggestions!!

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    Re: Woody's Windows XP Dummies Books (Windows XP Home; Ver. 5.1, SP1)

    Woody is able to get across his wealth of knowledge because like all great teachers I've had he is a bit fed up to say the least at some of the pomp and circumstance that has attended the terrific inside out knowledge of software and hardware he has. I think he always asks himself how can I make this easy to understand for everyone. The other books though are books I am very glad to have on my desk.

    Don't underestimate both the lounge and the web. If you just put Windows XP/Windows XP Help/Windows XP Tutorials/Windows XP Sites into Google people have gone out of their way to teach on the web. I didn't have this kind of resource unfortunately when I was in school. I would have played a lot more if I had.

    Also if you look back on the XP posts, many of us have links all over the MS site for people starting out with XP that have said they are beginning with it and if you just go to Microsoft's site and click around--they have made a good effort at putting a lot of mini tutorials and tours and videos up that are good, clear, and free. I wish they had done the same thing with their menus and the registry as well.

    Have a good time.

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    Re: Woody's Windows XP Dummies Books (Windows XP Home; Ver. 5.1, SP1)

    More helpful hints and advice. Just had to get a message back to you to say - once again - thank you!

    One of the things that has most amazed me in the past few years of computing is the number of people, like yourself, who will take the time to help and be ultra patient with us "newbies" or "non-techies". Want you to know how much it is appreciated!! I gave up on formal support lines a long time ago: answers from fellow users have proven much more useful and way more understandable. (Have to admit, however, that once or twice, a support person has been terrific! The averages just haven't been good.)

    Many, many thanks!

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    Re: Woody's Windows XP Dummies Books (Windows XP Home; Ver. 5.1, SP1)

    I couldn't more with Kelly's statement. Might I also suggest you take advantage of your local public library or if you happen to be near a university or community college; go to their library and browse their stacks. Also if you happen to have a local "users Group," they can be an excellent resource for insight with members usually willing to share their personal opinions and knowledge with you. There are tons of Windows 'XP books out their, but the O'Reilly and Dummies offer what I feel or the best value for beginners and to some degree all levels of Windows 'XP users.

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