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    Bizarre hard return (Word 2002, SP-3)

    I've attached a document that apparently has a defective hard carriage return. I come across these defective returns every so often and just wonder if other people do too.

    The bad return is at the end of the first paragraph.

    Note that if you try to apply a Heading 1, 2, etc. style to the second paragraph, it gets applied to the first paragraph.

    Also note that you can put your cursor on the right side of that carriage return in the first paragraph, which is something that normal returns won't let you do. To do that, put your cursor somewhere in the last line of the paragraph and hit the End key.

    Also note that with your cursor anywhere above the second paragraph, if you hit Ctrl-DownArrow, you won't land on the second paragraph--Word bypasses it. Somehow that defective return isn't full-fledged enough to indicate a legitimate end to the paragraph.

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    Re: Bizarre hard return (Word 2002, SP-3)

    Hi Russ,

    In Word, para markers are usually comprised of two hex characters - 0D 0A. In your document the first para somehow got munged into 0D 09. Char 09 is usually the tab character, and that's what you now see as the 'start' of the 2nd para.

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    Re: Bizarre hard return (Word 2002, SP-3)

    Thanks. Have you seen this before?

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    Re: Bizarre hard return (Word 2002, SP-3)

    Nope. But if you can track the source down to one particular PC, I'd suggest checking it out for hardware problems (eg memory, disk drive), and maybe reinstalling the software if the hardware's OK.

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    Re: Bizarre hard return (Word 2002, SP-3)

    Okay. Thanks.

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    Re: Bizarre hard return (Word 2002, SP-3)

    I have, but the bad document demons don't afflict me as often as they do you. Were these documents converted from something else?

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    Re: Bizarre hard return (Word 2002, SP-3)

    I've seen them before and they seem to be related to files that have been converted from other formats.

    It's no big deal to replace the paragraph mark with a real one so I don't think they are that big a deal. Even a search and replace can be used to replace all paragraph marks including the good ones. If you search for ^13 and replace it with a ^p you will get all the little suckers at once.
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    Re: Bizarre hard return (Word 2002, SP-3)

    Sorry for the delay, Jefferson--I just got back from vacation.

    The document was a conversion from WordPerfect as Unformatted Text, so I wouldn't think there would be any residual effects.

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    Re: Bizarre hard return (Word 2002, SP-3)

    Thanks, Andrew. As I mentioned to Jefferson, I just returned from vacation. I'll use that search & replace next time.

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