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    Humidity Level?

    <img src=/S/electric.gif border=0 alt=electric width=15 height=15> I have a Gateway EV900 Monitor that cracks and pops at will which is unnerving to say the least. I contacted Gateway who, among other things [ie. drivers etc], suggested that if the room was too dry it could cause the cracking and popping. A humidistat showed the room had 50 % humidity. I am currently using a humidifier and the humidity is up to 60%. But what is the "correct" level of humidity?

    BTW because the cracking and popping is random, its too soon to tell if the increased humidity has helped.

    Any Ideas/Suggestions?
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    Re: Humidity Level?

    Hi (if this is a spoof, you got me <img src=/S/blush.gif border=0 alt=blush width=15 height=15>)
    They're hoping it will go away, is all. But it won't. It sounds to me like one or more dry joints, which means at least one contact somewhere on one of the monitor's circuit boards is now less than perfect, so the current 'arcs' producing a minute spark and crackle. ie. <img src=/S/electric.gif border=0 alt=electric width=15 height=15>

    It is up to them to replace your monitor - it would be highly unlikey they would spend the time trying to find the fault, and nor should you. atm they're trying to avoid the inconvenience of taking it back. Probably.
    Hope it's still under warranty, and I haven't been too wet...
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    Re: Humidity Level?

    My guess would be the high voltage circuit - usually sited at the back of the tube.
    If there is sparking, it needs some sort of conductor - dust or moisture are the favourites, which would make me suggest a lower humidity level would be preferable.
    However, the HV circuitry is normally well sealed and insulated so I suspect it is either a bad joint as Mel suggests, or a component failure.
    If it's not under warranty, get professional/qualified help. Do NOT open up the back of the monitor unless you know what you're doing.

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    Re: Humidity Level?

    No spoof, unfortunately <img src=/S/bummer.gif border=0 alt=bummer width=15 height=15>. And the monitor is not under warranty (just my luck, the warranty ran out in January and it is 4 years old). Is it really worth finding someone to repair it or do people just buy new ones when monitors die? I really don't want to invest in a new one if repairing this one will work. But I also don't want to waste my money in repairs if the end result will be buying a new monitor anyway. I'm open to all suggestions/advice.
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    Re: Humidity Level?

    "But I also don't want to waste my money in repairs if the end result will be buying a new monitor anyway. I'm open to all suggestions/advice"

    It will cost <font color=448800> <big>MORE MONEY</big></font color=448800> to repair it that to go out and buy a new one with improvements. <img src=/S/2cents.gif border=0 alt=2cents width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/eyeout.gif border=0 alt=eyeout width=15 height=15>

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    Re: Humidity Level?

    I'm with Dave - more than likely going to be cheaper to buy new.

    BTW - you have deguassed your monitor recently? (I think more modern monitors do it automatically on power-on.) There should be an option somewhere to do it.

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    Re: Humidity Level?

    Thanks guys for the input. I really appreciate it. I have tried deguassing and it really doesn't seem to help. About repairs vs buying new - As I ran thru Best Buy yesterday I noticed a 19" monitor for $499 (original price on mine was $655). Would I expect to pay <font color=red>hundreds</font color=red> of dollars for repairs? Or are you suggesting that repairs would only be a short term fix?
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    Re: Humidity Level?

    It depends on exactly what the problem is, and how honest the shop you take it to is. It does sound like something arcing in the high voltage circuit at the back of the tube. That could be something simple like a paper clip fell into the area, and you are getting an arc from the high voltage circuit to the paper clip. That should be fairly inexpensive to fix. Or it could be the whole high voltage wiring breaking down which would be hundreds of dollars. Of course, a dishonest shop would remove the paper clip and charge you for a complete new high voltage circuit. It could also be something simple like the paper clip, but very hard to find, which could also get expensive. You might call a few shops and get them to give you an estimate.
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    Re: Humidity Level?

    I would surprised if anyone would be prepared to give a quote before knowing what the problem was - they are more likely to say 'between $x.xx and $y' - where $x.xx is their minimum charge. I would also be very surprised at getting any warranty of more than 3 months.

    I think you need to think about the expected life of the monitor - I would suggest 5 years is probably not unreasonable. We (financially) write-off PC's here after 3 years and sell them on for a nominal amount to deserving causes - so I can't give you a personal-experience estimate.
    I would expect manufacturers to give a 'technical' life of 5 years - so you've got 80% of that. Based on that, I think you could do worse than to calculate the cost of the original monitor as being 655/5 = or $131 per year. The replacement could be calculated as being 499/5 or $100 per year.

    Personally, I would say that if I could not get another guaranteed one year of life from it for < $100, I'd scrap it.

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    Re: Humidity Level?

    Thanks again all. And Leif, when you look at it that way, I guess you are right - its time for a new monitor.

    Now can I ask you all to look into your crystal ball <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15> and tell me if I need to run out and buy one yesterday? My concern is that it is going to just die without warning and I will be forced to buy one rashly. Worse yet, my fear is that its death will be violent, while I am using the PC <img src=/S/yikes.gif border=0 alt=yikes width=15 height=15>. Should I be afraid to use it?
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    Re: Humidity Level?

    Assume that it could die at any moment and ask yourself how long you can live without it. Only you can anser that.

    Are you happy to buy without seeing what you're getting? I would have thought that buying on the 'net with next-day-delivery could be the most cost effective. Otherwise, are you far from your nearest PC World or whatever?

    Safety: who knows? Personally, I would be dis-inclined to use it more than you need. How it will die is an unknown; it could be that switch-on is going to be the hardest for it to cope with - on the other hand, extended use may lead to component failure which may lead to overheating and a puff of smoke...
    I don't know what the statistics are, but TV sets do go up in flames and their technology is not far removed. If it is making regular scary noises, go with the fear factor, and get something underway.

    Just as a by the way, and I'm sure this is totally unrelated, but plants do not like to be near monitors. I half killed a rampant cheese plant once - you could actually see the leaves move at switch on.

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    Re: Humidity Level?

    Thanks for all the input. I spent my lunch-hour comparing monitors on the net <img src=/S/dizzy.gif border=0 alt=dizzy width=15 height=15>.

    BTW what exactly is a cheese plant?
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    Re: Humidity Level?

    Living in Switzerland in a rural farming village, we have lots of cheese plants. That's where they get the holes in Swiss Cheese!


    Well, its almost still April 1st. <img src=/S/sick.gif border=0 alt=sick width=15 height=15>
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    Re: Cheese Plant

    <big>Contrary</big> to what Legare might have you believe <img src=/S/laugh.gif border=0 alt=laugh width=15 height=15> (although mine was called Emmy - short for Emmental):

    Common names
    Swiss-cheese plant, Split-leaf philodendron, Ceriman

    Botanical name
    Monstera deliciosa

    Poisonous parts
    Leaves

    Notes
    Swiss-cheese plant is a popular indoor ornamental because of its ability to withstand the wide range of conditions encountered in the home.

    For a pic, go <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.blankees.com/house/plants/monstera.htm>here</A>

    Good luck with the shopping.

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    Re: Cheese Plant

    OK. <img src=/S/laugh.gif border=0 alt=laugh width=15 height=15> Split-leaf philodendron is a name I know. Seriously, you all have been great - with your advice and your humor. Thanks a bunch! <img src=/S/kiss.gif border=0 alt=kiss width=15 height=15>
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