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    Missing Characters (Word 97/2002)

    I have been using Word 2002 and when I insert Symbols, I can select the Subset to be Cyrillic.

    Is this not available in Word 97?

    Documents created in 2002 using other characters becomes square boxes too <img src=/S/crybaby.gif border=0 alt=crybaby width=15 height=15>

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    Re: Missing Characters (Word 97/2002)

    In the old days, many computers used the ASCII character set; it contained 128 characters numbered 0 to 127. For instance, A is number 65, Z is number 90, etc.
    This didn't leave much room for anything except the standard alphabet in upper and lower case, digits and punctuation. So extensions were defined to allow for letters with diacritics (accents), some curency symbols etc., using codes 128 to 255. This is called Extended ASCII.
    Windows originally used a modified version of extended ASCII called ANSI. Each character in Extended ASCII/ANSI occupies 8 bits or 1 byte.
    To accomodate languages with other characters, such as cyrillic, arabic etc. needed special tricks, because you just can't fit all these characters in 256 possibilities. Enter Unicode, a new standard to code characters in 2 bytes instead of 1, giving 256 x 256 = 65536 possible characters.
    Although Office 97 has some support for Unicode, it is limited. It wasn't until Office 2000 that Unicode became standard in Office applications. So you've run into an aspect of Office that is not backwards compatible.

    (Note for history freaks: yes, I am aware that there were other character sets such as EBCDIC in use even earlier.

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    Re: Missing Characters (Word 97/2002)

    On recent systems, many fonts are unicode fonts, so they contain cyrillic, arabic etc. characters. But not all fonts support all subsets; when you try Insert | symbol.., and change to a different font, you will see that the number of available subsets varies.

    On older systems, such fonts may not be present at all.

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    Re: Missing Characters (Word 97/2002)

    So I cannot use these characters w/o changing to a font that supports them?

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    Re: Missing Characters (Word 97/2002)

    So in Windows 98 using Word 97, I CANNOT use these characters w/o changing the font that supports them?

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    Re: Missing Characters (Word 97/2002)

    I think that's correct. I don't have a system to test it on.

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    Re: Missing Characters (Word 97/2002)

    I do not think it is a sytem or OS issue, but a font problem. Just install the font on the 98 machine and see what happens.

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    Re: Missing Characters (Word 97/2002)

    That's certainly worth a try.

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    Re: Missing Characters (Word 97/2002)

    Dave, I no longer have WP installation disk LOL <img src=/S/clapping.gif border=0 alt=clapping width=19 height=23>

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    Re: Missing Characters (Word 97/2002)

    Why, did you lose it, sell it or give it away?

    One always needs to keep those things. Most fonts are on the internet, just do a search on the font name and see what you find.

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    Re: Missing Characters (Word 97/2002)

    I agree - Word 97/Win 98 does support Unicode if the right fonts are installed - just checked with a bog-standard W98SE/Word97 machine and Grrrek, Cyrillic Hebrew etc work fine from 'insert symbol'. And I'm fairly certain that both 98SE (and I think 98) and Office 97 shipped with several unicode fonts.

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