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    Cloning of OE: Signatures did not clone (6)

    I used Tom Koch's very useful http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/backup/clone.htm to clone OE on a multiboot system. All partitions are Win 2000 SP 4 with OE 6. Seemed to work fine.

    Today, I noticed that Signatures are not cloned.
    Did I miss a step in the article?
    Or, is there a missing step?

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    Re: Cloning of OE: Signatures did not clone (6)

    Howard

    I'm just plucking up courage to do this very thing, and I'm using "Majik"'s OEBackup to back up all the files and registry settings for all OE identities within a user profile so they can be restored (where necessary) in the new user profile.

    I found Tom Koch's Complete Clone Backup instructions, Preparation, point 2, somewhat inaccurate, in that he says (or at least, I read it as such) that you should create three directories under "Registry Keys", whereas you have one set of registry keys for the complete user profile, not three, one for each OE identity. And yes, there is no mention of Signatures.

    Here's what OEBackup gave for my single user profile/single identity:

    <pre>19/12/2002 08:37 15,010 50.reg
    19/12/2002 08:37 164 blockedsenders.reg
    24/08/2003 12:33 60,116 Deleted Items.dbx
    24/08/2003 12:33 74,720 Folders.dbx
    24/08/2003 16:53 6,393 HKLMOutlookExpress.reg
    24/08/2003 16:53 3,171 IAM.reg
    24/08/2003 12:33 716,144 Inbox.dbx
    24/08/2003 16:53 20,444 John Gray.reg
    23/08/2003 08:49 267,213 John.wab
    19/12/2002 08:37 4,787 messagerule.reg
    24/08/2003 12:33 9,656 Offline.dbx
    24/08/2003 12:33 191,188 Outbox.dbx
    16/12/2002 09:45 9,404 Pop3uidl.dbx
    24/08/2003 12:33 1,908,848 Sent Items.dbx
    19/12/2002 08:37 135 Signatures.rgg
    24/08/2003 16:53 8,192 SignaturesWinXP.reg
    24/08/2003 16:53 868 WAB.reg</pre>


    I would recommend OEBackup -- not at all pretty, but seems to get the job done...
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    Re: Cloning of OE: Signatures did not clone (6)

    I had thought about trying OEBackup, but tom's instructions were simple and seemed to work for me, at least until I discovered that signatures were missing.

    I guess that I can use OEBackup to back up to another directory, then boot to each system I wish and restore from that backup.
    Is that how it works?

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    Re: Cloning of OE: Signatures did not clone (6)

    Did you clone OE to another OS?
    If so, did it carry along the signatures.

    Somebody else told me that OEBackup cannot be used to clone signatures.

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    Re: Cloning of OE: Signatures did not clone (6)

    Howard

    I've just done the move of three OE Identities from one XP user profile to another on the same machine, without incident, using Tom Koch's writeup (Complete Clone Backup: Backup then Restore, having already done the Preparation section a couple of weeks ago). Since only two of the identities had signatures, and those were just text ones, I simply retyped them.

    I found that OEBackup was fine for doing Backups, but utterly baffling for doing restores, in the environment I was trying to use it. David Guess (=Majik) says quite a bit about signatures here, and I also found that the backup had created a SignaturesWinXP.reg file as well as the Signatures.rgg file that he talks about, in each identity. No obvious distinction or explanation, unfortunately, and I really didn't understand what he's talking about...

    I'm afraid that my experiences with attempting to understand the moving of three OE identities from a corrupted XP user Profile to a new one has made me somewhat less than impressed with the quality and completeness of OE procedures and OE utility documentation. If I'd been sufficiently confident that these two authors were entirely familiar with what I was attempting to do, and had explained it in an idiot-proof fashion, then I would have done the transfer about a month ago, when the problem with the corrupted XP User Profile had first manifested itself.

    PS Doesn't is p*ss you off that SMBP <img src=/S/fanfare.gif border=0 alt=fanfare width=31 height=23> can find half a dozen articles on the subject in five minutes while I've been floundering around for weeks, trying to pluck up courage to follow some slightly misleading and incomplete instructions??! <img src=/S/hairout.gif border=0 alt=hairout width=31 height=23>
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    Re: Cloning of OE: Signatures did not clone (6)

    No rgg file was generated here.

    In any case, I note that one of the.reg files had a hard coded path that would have prevented proper restore/cloning on another partition.

    So OEBackup might be useful for backup, but not for cloning.

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    Re: Cloning of OE: Signatures did not clone (6)

    Even the MSFT articles do not address the issue of Signatures.

    If one sticks to using Signatures in files, then those can be shared by manually adding the signatures to each clone or by copying the relevant registry keys.

    So using the method in Tom Koch's article works for me, as long as I add the signatures.

    It would be useful to find a way to tell Outlook where to save signatures so the same signature files could be used wit hOE.

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