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    Text wrapping/text box (Word 2002/SP2)

    I have a client that has redesigned their letterhead to have the attorney names down the left side of the first page resulting in a 2 inch left margin on page one. For subsequent pages, they want the margins to go back to 1 inch. I did this be placing the names in a text box and leaving the margins at 1 inch.

    As a result of the text box, I seem to have lost some control of paragraph formatting on the first page. I can change the first line indent or tab, but I can not indent the rest of a paragraph. Increasing/decreasing the indent has no effect. You can see the marks move on the ruler, but the text does not moved.

    Is there another way to accomplish having different margins on first and second pages?
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    Re: Text wrapping/text box (Word 2002/SP2)

    Something very like this came up some time ago, and if I remember correctly, there was no satisfactory solution. This is not an area in which Word shines...

    One workaround is to insert a section break at the end of the first page. You can then set a 2 inch left margin for the first page. If text is added to or removed from the first page, the section break will have to be moved. <img src=/S/sad.gif border=0 alt=sad width=15 height=15>

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    Re: Text wrapping/text box (Word 2002/SP2)

    Is this what you are wanting?
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    Re: Text wrapping/text box (Word 2002/SP2)

    That's what I have - with the same problems. If you open your document and indent parargaphs, they do not indent.

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    Re: Text wrapping/text box (Word 2002/SP2)

    That is the one things I am trying to avoid. I don't want users to have to constantly worry about the section break - not to mention needing to put section breaks into the middle of paragraphs.

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    Re: Text wrapping/text box (Word 2002/SP2)

    For me when looking at it, the text is wrapping around the right side box without having to indent (or set styles to indent). Isn't this what you are wanting?

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    Re: Text wrapping/text box (Word 2002/SP2)

    Are the paragraphs supposed to be indented further in from the left than the address line?

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    Re: Text wrapping/text box (Word 2002/SP2)

    Not as a starting point but the users are frustrated when they try to make some changes in a paragraph and can not. If they want to indent a particular paragraph for whatever reason, they can not.

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    Re: Text wrapping/text box (Word 2002/SP2)

    If the users will use styles (or at least one), the attached should work. The 2nd indented para is just using the "Indent Para" style but indented further using "Control+M". Inserting a table, however, is another story.
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    Re: Text wrapping/text box (Word 2002/SP2)

    Darryl, I checked your attachment and my question is...does your problem have anything to do with the fact that the text box is anchored to a paragraph in the Header of your document. I did a number of experiments and did not get any farther than you did - I even tried to move the anchor - to no avail. I t definitely has something to do with the textbox. I have made a few changes to your example and re-attached. I recreated the text box, moving the text box anchor out of the header and moved the text box behind the text and this seems to work. I am not clear if this will cause other problems, but maybe this is a start. HTH <img src=/S/compute.gif border=0 alt=compute width=40 height=20>

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    Ron M <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>
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    Re: Text wrapping/text box (Word 2002/SP2)

    What about setting up the first page in two columns, insert a column break at the end of the list of names, then text goes in the next column, and you can format the paragraphs.

    Or if you create a second text box for the body text on the first page you can also control the paragraph indenting.

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    Re: Text wrapping/text box (Word 2002/SP2)

    How about putting a two column borderless table on the first page and moving the list of names to the left hand column?

    This leaves all your paragraph formatting working correctly, and the user doesn't have to take note of section breaks - but they would still need to take manual action to leave the table cell when they got to the bottom of the first page.

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    Re: Text wrapping/text box (Word 2002/SP2)

    Hi Leanne:
    That's clever. To avoid the fact that text box & frame formatting override paragraph indents, you use the Bullets & Numbering indents to control it. I'll have to add that in my bag of tricks.

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    Re: Text wrapping/text box (Word 2002/SP2)

    Hi Darryl,

    Using styles is definitely the way to go here - they'll automatically reposition their left margins to accomodate the text box in the header, as shown in the attached. Once your users have been educated about this, they'll also find that the use of styles makes revising the layout of complex documents, especially, is much easier.

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    Re: Text wrapping/text box (Word 2002/SP2)

    The text box should not be in the Header. Cut and paste the text box in the first page; re-size the height of the text box; use square or tight for the layout.

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