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    Time to upgrade to XP? (XP SP1)

    We are still using Office 2000 at work and I also have it on my PC at home. I am just about to buy a laptop and have various possibilities. I MIGHT be able to convince work to let me use an unused license for 2000, but that might only be a temporary solution. Or I could use Open Office. But I can also get hold of a reasonably priced bundled Office XP (SP1) and that might be the best solution. I seem to remember that there are some problems with Outlook in SP1 that make it difficult to use due to excessive security with respect to attachments. Am I right? And is this only a default that can be overridden?

    And are there other reasons why I might not want to upgrade. I use mostly Word, Excel, Outlook and Powerpoint.

    Any hints would be gratefully received.

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    Re: Time to upgrade to XP? (XP SP1)

    Security in Outlook 2002 is similar to that in Outlook 2000 SP-2. You can customize which extensions are restricted by installing Ken Slovak's Attachment Options.

    I like Outlook 2002, as well as Excel 2002 and PowerPoint 2002. I hate the so-called "improvements" in Word 2002, all of which make using it more difficult than necessary.

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    Re: Time to upgrade to XP? (XP SP1)

    Thanks for the info, Hans, especially for the link. Which "improvements" in Word do you object to?

    Greetings
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    Re: Time to upgrade to XP? (XP SP1)

    Here's a link to some info on the Outlook security mess: www.slipstick.com. If you want to take a step forward and use some really great software, my suggestion would be to strongly consider a path that leads to Office 2003, which will be out in mid-October. The pricing is in line with what you would pay for Office XP, and especially the new Outlook is a lot better than previous versions. I've been using 2003 since late spring, and won't go back to my mix of 97/200/2002, even if I have to buy it retail (beta testers are waiting for our early October "gifts" from MS, and I'm keeping my fingers crossed!) If you are buying XP, you should be able to get a "technology guarantee" free upgrade to 2003 (I think that's what it's called), but if I were you I would just wait til it comes out in Oct (the 21st, I believe).

    I am assuming here that you are buying a laptop that's current in terms of specs, as 2003 is not for the faint of RAM, but in general it's more stable, a lot faster, and just way cooler than previous versions. I'm hooked.

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    Re: Time to upgrade to XP? (XP SP1)

    The new "Task Pane" in my opinion is a pane in the <img src=/w3timages/censored.gif alt=censored border=0>. Creating a new document from a template, editing styles and mail merge all require more steps than in previous versions. In some cases, you can still access the old dialogs, but the default behavior is annoying.

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    Re: Time to upgrade to XP? (XP SP1)

    Sounds good. Is it backward compatible with the earlier versions? I exchange a lot of Word, Excel and Powerpoint files with others in different countries who can't be expected to upgrade.

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    Re: Time to upgrade to XP? (XP SP1)

    Interesting. I dislike programs that think they are more intelligent than I am and like to switch off most automatic functions. If it is a real pain, I might just stay with 2000.

    Martin

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    Re: Time to upgrade to XP? (XP SP1)

    Yes it's backwards compatible, but also yes it's software that thinks it's pretty dang smart. Sometimes I really miss Word 5.0, but I have been trying to keep an open mind and have come to appreciate many of the newfangled options that distinguish (plague?) Office 2003.

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    Re: Time to upgrade to XP? (XP SP1)

    Thanks to you all for the information and special thanks to SMBP for all the links. The new version looks interesting so I think I will wait until I can se it in action before deciding.

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    Re: Time to upgrade to XP? (XP SP1)

    Martin--

    You can get a good look at the features of Office XP and Office 2003 at the links below with profuse screenshots and a look at Word 2003 with features and screenshots:

    Post 289469 for links to Tours and Features of Office XP Showcased

    7 Screen Shooted Reviews of Office XP Paul Thurott Win Supersite Scroll down to Office 2003 and Office XP Sections

    PC Mag: Microsoft Office 2003: Beta Shows Promise of this Major Overhaul

    Woody's Office 2003: It's Here Office 2003 RTM: What does this mean, really? Woody Leonhard 19 August 2003 Volume 1 No. 5

    Office Online Beta

    Microsoft Office 11 Preview

    Word 2003 Overview

    Microsoft Office 2003 Editions: New Technology, Compare to Prev. Versions

    Microsoft Office 2003 Features and Prices Compared.

    View Office 2003 Components and Editions

    Site Map for Previews of Components of Office 2003 Systems including Infopath and One Note

    Microsoft Office 2003 and Comparison of Editions Winsupersite

    Microsoft Office Beta 2 Kit Review

    Office 2003 FAQ's

    I put this up to help you get a feel for Office XP, Office 2003, and Word 2003 as well as a site map to try out the components of Office 2003 incl. One Note, Infopath, Publisher, Exchange, PP, Excel, Access. Unfortunately, they've stopped taking orders for the Beta 2 which with the TR (technical refresh and updates offered on the site would essentially spell the final version good through October 31) according to advertising, and possibly after that in clinical reality, if it's like most Betas I've seen, but you can get trial CD's.

    How to get Office System and Trial CD's

    hth,

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    Re: Time to upgrade to XP? (XP SP1)

    You can sign up for one of their trial CD's --those are good usually for about 30-60 days. The cite says it's too late for the Beta2--with 1) the Technical Refresh and 2) the Update for selected components it's got to be close to RTM but you would only have to wait another month, maybe less if you found a local Microsoft meeting for the trial CD's of 2003. The trial CD's of Office XP are all over the place--once they start promoting Office 2003--it's a "system now"--it has system status--it's a way of life--the Office 2003 Longhorn wave-- you're going to see it plastered on every street corner and stop sign. I don't think I included this link in my list, but I should have, so they're added now.

    View Office 2003 Components and Editions

    Woody has started an Office 2003 newsletter and there are archives of his newsletters on Office XP and those can be very helpful for you--there is a link to that at the bottom of the Lounge main page. Also just google for articles on Office 2003 because PC Mag, PC World, and the computer periodicals are all going to be doing features dissecting it a little and showing the features in the next few months. In about 3 weeks, you'll be able to go into a book store and get a stack of magazines that go through the new Office.

    One of the better features will be to make the task pane set up less annoying. The reading format for Word documents has changed. I know I could make Word menus a lot more explicit and intuitive than they ever will. I could do it with Windows as well. In concept. Whether I could actually implement my suggestions in code if I knew how, would be quite another thing.

    My Wish List would include allowing people in the Lounge who have made some great suggestions on ways to improve Office implement those changes in Office Systems 2003--and to let Woody implement some of the changes he has brought up over the years.

    If you are able to wait a little bit, I think you're going to be better off with 2003 but there is enough on that site that you can do a reasonable comparison--it really depends on whether you are one of the 95% who uses around 3-4% of say Word's or other components features--scores of detailed studies have been done on this--or whether you are in that other category who uses a bigger percent of the features. You can access prices and compare features here:

    Microsoft Office 2003 Features and Prices Compared.

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    Re: Time to upgrade to XP? (XP SP1)

    Kip,

    We've just purchased Office XP for our new Windows XP computer system (home office use; our previous system ran Windows 95 and Office 97). How do we go about the "technology upgrade" to Office 2003 when it comes out, which you mentioned in your post? Have read so many good things about Office 2003 in this and other Woody's threads.

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    Re: Time to upgrade to XP? (XP SP1)

    Well here's the link: MS Technology Guarantee . Hope you qualify.

    Good luck
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    Re: Time to upgrade to XP? (XP SP1)

    Kip - Terrific! Thanks for your fast response and the link. I've gone to the site, determined we were eligible, printed out the form and am ready to go.

    Another request: would you advise going ahead and sending in for the upgrade right away or waiting? The reason I ask is that the offer is good until Dec. 31/03 and I wondered if there would be "service releases" to Office 2003 by then which would be worth waiting for, of course?

    Thanks again.

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    Re: Time to upgrade to XP? (XP SP1)

    > We are still using Office 2000 at work and I also have it on my PC at home. I am just about to buy a laptop and have various possibilities.

    Some variations of the Office license permit installation on a laptop as an adjunct to a desktop computer. As a start, you could check <post#=283045>post 283045</post#>.

    I'm sure Office 2003 will be interesting, and equally certain that you would like to get productive sooner rather than later. <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>

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