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    delete outlook express (office 2000)

    I currently have outlook express and outlook on my system. I have switched over to outlook and do not use the express program at all anymore. Is there any problems that would occur if I went to control panel and eliminated this program?
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    Re: delete outlook express (office 2000)

    Don't think there should be any problems. Just make sure Outlook is checked as your default handler. <img src=/S/nope.gif border=0 alt=nope width=15 height=15>

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    Re: delete outlook express (office 2000)

    According to Microsoft, Outlook Express' presence is required in order for Outlook to work. Yes, it seems strange since Outlook Express is the stripped down version of Outlook but that's the way MS decided it needed to be done.

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    Re: delete outlook express (office 2000)

    Hi, Miz ~

    Miz from Arie's?

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    Re: delete outlook express (office 2000)

    Errrr....could be, Bruce. What, or who, is "Aries"? [img]/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif[/img]

    I do post using this nick on several forums. Okay, not several, a bunch. I've got the time and I've got some computer knowledge so I'm happy to help others to give back the time others spent helping me.

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    Re: delete outlook express (office 2000)

    <hr>Outlook Express is the stripped down version of Outlook <hr>
    Since when? All the information I've read is that they are different animals, designed by two separate groups in Microsoft. They have similarities, because they both deal with email. Oh, and they have the word "Outlook" in their names -- but that's the marketing department of Microsoft!
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    Re: delete outlook express (office 2000)

    Miz--

    Why is Outlook Express required for Outlook to operate? Where does Microsoft say this? It's true that Outlook does have parts of IE strongly linked with it and integrated with it for certain functions, and certainly true that Outlook has no news reader, and if you're reading news and set up to do it with Outlook open, you're going to be ushered to the Outlook Express screen. You read news through OLE, and if you don't have OLE you won't be able to configure newsgroups through Outlook because you won't be seeing that screen--you'll have to get another newsreader or else read newsgroups like MSN or others off the web (you can do this with MSN--not as convenient--you can't with some other NG's.

    Also when and if you're obtaining a digital certificate through a public certification authority (CA) you can use IE(Tools>Options>Content>Certificates>Certificate Export Wizard). If you browse without leaving Outlook, then you'll be using the integration of Outlook and Internet Explorer since Outlook isn't natively integrated with alternative browsers like Mozilla or Avant or Opera--I don't mean coexisting I mean integrated with). This feature is handy if you are in Outlook and want to retrieve a file, view online docs, or access the web and for some reason don't want to open IE--you can continue working in a single interface and avoid switching. The Stop and Refresh buttons on the toolbar perform the same function they do in IE.

    Most Outlook books or extensive articles will include a chapter on integrating these two, but while Outlook needs IE for certain tasks and is integrated with its components h ow does it need OLE? You can use OLE to query LDAP directory service but if you don't and didn't care about the newsreader, and OLE is a good alternative to Outlook for POP3 accounts but why would you need OLE for Outlook?

    Besides the newsreader, why would Outlook need Outlook Express per se to function--IE of course, and for that matter IE is tightly integrated with Windows Explorer the "file managment" program for Windows, but why does Outlook need OLE?

    I haven't seen anything that would indicate that you absolutely have to have OLE for Outlook to function--IE of course is integrated. I don't see anything in the KB below or anywhere on Microsoft's site including the MSKB, Technet, or MSDN that says Outlook is dependent on having OLE--IE yes but OLE:

    257824: OL2002: Differences Between Outlook and Outlook Express

    Microsoft in fact describes Outlook as "a stand alone application" in the above MSKB.

    "Outlook is Microsoft's premier messaging and collaboration client. It is a stand-alone application that is integrated into Microsoft Office and Exchange Server. Outlook also provides performance and integration with Internet Explorer ..."

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    Re: delete outlook express (office 2000)

    I also should have mentioned that there are implications of the sometimes strong connections of IE and Outlook in terms of configuring the Internet Security Zone and viral protection and patching IE for protection as well as configuring your firewall:

    291387: OLEXP: Using Virus Protection Features in Outlook Express 6

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    Re: delete outlook express (office 2000)

    My first question would be why would you want to do this--it's just there? It's not taking significant real-estate or resources, and most importantly it's one of the best newsreaders for newsgroups. I don't see what in the world you gain by doing it. Second, how are you going to go to Add/Remove and isolate OE there and uninstall it surgically? Which operating system do you have?

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    Re: delete outlook express (office 2000)

    Absolutely it should have. I'll retrace and see why it didn't--I thought I gave it every chance to. Thanks much for the prompt correction. Could someone who didn't need the newsreader, and didn't need to interface the web with Outlook function decently stand alone--and how important is "shime" to the functioning of Outlook--information on the file isn't easy to come by and the KB didn't bother to define or explain it. As KB's sometimes are, it was a minimalist KB as far as explaining the function of "shime."

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    Re: delete outlook express (office 2000)

    SMIME = S/MIME = Secure MIME

    Way too much information can be found here: http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/smime-charter.html

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    Re: delete outlook express (office 2000)

    Thanks for the link/context--there are a lot of these OE associated "im" containing abbreviations. I had a hard time finding it with a search engine--there must be some site I'll have to look for that. Even searching Tomsterdam doesn't bring it up.

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    Re: delete outlook express (office 2000)

    I'm not sure what you're searching for. MIME is not related to IM, if IM means "instant messaging." MIME stands for something like multipurpose internet mail extensions and refers to a standard (actually, probably several standards) for encoding control codes and other non-plain-text characters for transport over the old 7-bit Internet.

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    Re: delete outlook express (office 2000)

    You answered my question well. I had just noticed that letters are in the command you type in the run box to open OE-- "msimn.exe"and you can very how it opens of course--and I used to know a way to open up several newsgroups at once--I think with direct url's.

    I wasn't looking for anything to do with messaging, but I guess the "im" letters confused m e and because of the mail association there may be more than one abbreviation you see associated with Outlook Express that could have confused me.



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