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    How Many Outs? (1)

    Here is the version of the puzzle for Americans. How many ways is it possible for a batter / base runner to be called out in Baseball?
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    Re: How Many Outs? (1)

    Will you clarify just a little bit. For example: <span style="background-color: #FFFF00; color: #000000; font-weight: bold"><font color=yellow>Is ground out considered a way or could that be broken down to specifics; ground out to pitcher, ground out to third, ground out to shortstop, etc. (to yield separate and many versions of a ground out) ?</font color=yellow></span hi>
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    Re: How Many Outs? (1)

    Ok, ground out <span style="background-color: #FFFF00; color: #000000; font-weight: bold"><font color=yellow> is really a force out - so I would lump all of these into just one - FORCED OUT. So, ground out to pitcher and the second out in a double play is one - FORCE OUT! Same with a pick off and a caught stealing - these are both TAG OUT</font color=yellow></span hi>
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    Re: How Many Outs? (1)

    Okay, I've come up with nine ways to get "out":

    <span style="background-color: #FFFF00; color: #000000; font-weight: bold"><font color=yellow>Force Out</font color=yellow></span hi>

    <span style="background-color: #FFFF00; color: #000000; font-weight: bold"><font color=yellow>Tag Out</font color=yellow></span hi>

    <span style="background-color: #FFFF00; color: #000000; font-weight: bold"><font color=yellow>Strike Out</font color=yellow></span hi>

    <span style="background-color: #FFFF00; color: #000000; font-weight: bold"><font color=yellow>Tossed Out / Ejection / Illegal equipment (i.e. corked bat)</font color=yellow></span hi>

    <span style="background-color: #FFFF00; color: #000000; font-weight: bold"><font color=yellow>Inteference (Example: A runner sliding into second intentionally slides six feet wide of the base to knock the second baseman off his feet, keeping the second baseman from throwing out the runner going to first. In this example, the runner going to first would be called out due to the inteference of his teammate.) Other baserunners would not be out, but could not advance on the play (I think)</font color=yellow></span hi>

    <span style="background-color: #FFFF00; color: #000000; font-weight: bold"><font color=yellow>Contact with a "live" ball (Example: Batsman hits the ball and the ball strikes a baserunner who just couldn't get out of the way quick enough. The baserunner is out)(If a defensive player is trying to throw a runner out and the ball hits the runner, while in the baseline, the runner is not out)</font color=yellow></span hi>

    <span style="background-color: #FFFF00; color: #000000; font-weight: bold"><font color=yellow>Running outside the baseline or base path to avoid being tagged, or to intefere with a defensive player making a play.</font color=yellow></span hi>

    <span style="background-color: #FFFF00; color: #000000; font-weight: bold"><font color=yellow>Batting out of sequence.</font color=yellow></span hi>

    <span style="background-color: #FFFF00; color: #000000; font-weight: bold"><font color=yellow>Fly out. Ball caught in the air by a defensive player.</font color=yellow></span hi>
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    Re: How Many Outs? (1)

    Gee, and I thought cricket was complicated. Didn't you forget <span style="background-color: #FFFF00; color: #000000; font-weight: bold"><font color=yellow>leg before plate</font color=yellow></span hi> <img src=/S/duck.gif border=0 alt=duck width=23 height=23>

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    Re: How Many Outs? (1)

    Great work. I had nine too but I missed the <span style="background-color: #FFFF00; color: #000000; font-weight: bold"><font color=yellow> interference one</font color=yellow></span hi>.

    So, that leaves one more way of getting out. And the reason I started this silly puzzle is that I was called out for this reason on the weekend
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    Re: How Many Outs? (1)

    So, what was the reason you were called out?

    I could think of three other ways to get out. I'm not sure of these, they're just guesses:
    A.. If the batter intentionally leans into the pitched ball in an effort to draw the walk, the umpire may call him out (this could be considered inteference).
    B. Making contact with another offensive player on the base paths? I could see this happening if a faster runner were behind a slower runner.
    C. Delay of Game - Taking too long to get into the batters box.

    I've also seen a player called out for not touching the bases in sequence. Example: A runner leaves first base on a long pop-fly from the batsman. While the ball is in the air the first runner touches second base and is heading for third when the outfielder catches the fly ball resulting in the second out of the inning. The first runner dashes back to first base as he cannot advance on a fly ball out. But he fails to re-touch second base on his way to first. A defensive player can take the ball to second base and the runner would be out.
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    Re: How Many Outs? (1)

    Ricky,
    Please be careful - you are making Cricket sound almost normal ...

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    Re: How Many Outs? (1)

    Cricket? All I know is they make pretty good bait while river fishing! <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>
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