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    Mozilla & Javascript (Mozilla 1.4)

    As many of you know, I've been a satisfied Moz user since just before version 1.0 was released. Still am. But I have a question about Mozilla and why some sites with embedded javascript links do not work. In all the cases where I've taken the time to experiment, the links WILL work in IE, just not Mozilla. I admit to knowing very little about this topic. As far as I can tell, my system is using the Sun plugin and I don't know if that's a bad thing or not. Would some of those non-working links work if I were depending on the MS product? As silly as this may be, my latest example is that I'm a participant every year in a fantasy NFL football league and in that vein, I also pay a small fee to use something Yahoo calls Stat Tracker. THIS SEASON, Stat Tracker doesn't work in Mozilla and Yahoo says so. They make a couple of Netscape suggestions for workaround, but it still doesn't work. It does work just fine in IE 6 but even then you have to go in to Options and un-check the Sun Java box and CHECK the box to use MS's Java Console.

    I know my computing experience is loaded with IE vs. Non-IE browser anomolies, but do any of you Moz users know of a workaround for this javascript problem? Up until now it hasn't been a big problem, but the number of web pages containing javascript links that don't work is increasing by leaps and bounds.....

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    Re: Mozilla & Javascript (Mozilla 1.4)

    <P ID="edit" class=small>(Edited by jscher2000 on 10-Sep-03 13:34. Added...)</P>Mozilla has a built-in pop-up blocker. Could that be it?

    Added: The differences between the official Java from Sun and the "extended" Java from Microsoft are a separate issue from links and probably more difficult to solve.

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    Re: Mozilla & Javascript (Mozilla 1.4)

    Hi Al

    Could you post a couple of example urls where Javascript doesn't work for you? I've been using Firebird lately, by the same folks as Mozilla, and haven't had any problems.....that I've noticed.

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    Re: Mozilla & Javascript (Mozilla 1.4)

    Sure Ken, I'll try.. The Yahoo example wouldn't work unless you were a participant in one of their fantasy sports leagues. But, try this. Go to CNN's web page and depending on how soon you get there, you may not find these same examples. At the moment, there's a link in about the center of the page, for CNN Radio that will show a javascript location on your status bar. Also, there's a link on the page, down toward the lower left, called "Carnage in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv" that shows a javascript entry on the status line. When I click on either of these, Mozilla does nothing. The CNN web page is a good example, since they frequently have javascript links.

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    Re: Mozilla & Javascript (Mozilla 1.4)

    Hi Al

    About half way down the CNN page there's a horizontal red line..........all javascript links I can find above the line work OK.........all javascript links I can find below the line don't work, Firebird transmits but nothing appears to return. If I cut and paste the url into a new window it still doesn't work. Je ne sais pas ! <img src=/S/shrug.gif border=0 alt=shrug width=39 height=15>

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    Re: Mozilla & Javascript (Mozilla 1.4)

    I meant to write this last night and forgot. Just in case someone else is wondering also, I do not use Mozilla's popup blocking, at least not in the Preferences context of blocking ALL popups. I do have a customization profile in which I block popups on only a handful of sites that I visit frequently. I don't think that's the cause. For certainty, I tested with a "plain vanilla" copy of Moz and the problem still exists.

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    Re: Mozilla & Javascript (Mozilla 1.4)

    Hey Al,

    The links appear to work fine on my Moz 1.4, all I could find on the CNN site and the radio link also. Only thing I can find pertaining to it is under Edit/Preferences/Advanced. Maybe this is the problem?
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    Re: Mozilla & Javascript (Mozilla 1.4)

    Thanks for looking, Mike. This is another of those examples that are really frustrating because it works OK for you and not me. My prefs looks just like yours does. How about on your About Plugins page, if you don't mind looking? I have SEVERAL java plugins listed (different DLLs, all starting with NPJavaxx.DLL). They're all version 1.4.2_01. In case it helps, here a crop of the files in my Mozilla Plugins directory.
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    Re: Mozilla & Javascript (Mozilla 1.4)

    Hey Al,

    I even have less plugins in the plugins directory, but all the ones I have, you also have. One thing I did notice is that my dll versions are all 1.4.0 where yours are 1.4.2. Wonder if this makes a difference?
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    Re: Mozilla & Javascript (Mozilla 1.4)

    I don't think that's it. I just recently upgraded the Sun java at the suggestion of the folks at that Yahoo Stat Tracker page. That was one of their suggestions for trying to get their Stat Tracker to work in Netscape.

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    Re: Mozilla & Javascript (Mozilla 1.4)

    If you go to Intellicast Radar do you get a Java Console icon in the system tray? Don't know much about the console, but it might help with finding out what's wrong.
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    Re: Mozilla & Javascript (Mozilla 1.4)

    Nope, nothing in the tray! It took a long time for the page to appear - a Dallas weather map - but there was nothing in the tray. I don't have the foggiest idea where to start looking for what might be unique on my installation of XP Pro that could be causing this problem. As you and I know, it could be some software app that I've got installed that's causing javascript not to work (sometimes). I wonder what would happen if I, just for the heck of it, temporarily moved all the files in my Mozilla plugin directory to some other folder. I don't guess it would blowup my whole system, so I might just try it. The only reason I'm thinking this way is that I don't know how to get my system in a position that it uses the MS version of java instead of Sun. As pointed out by Yahoo, you can do that for IE in the Internet Options panel, but that doesn't cut it for Netscape/Mozilla evidently.

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    Re: Mozilla & Javascript (Mozilla 1.4)

    you might try installing the Java registry patch here.
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    Re: Mozilla & Javascript (Mozilla 1.4)

    Absolutely fabulous! That did it for me, Unk! Thanx for the lead, sir! (BTW, The only thing I checked is the StatTracker in the Yahoo Fantasy Football area and it WORKS. I'll have to try a couple of sites where scripts have failed to run. But THIS is prograss)

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    Re: Mozilla & Javascript (Mozilla 1.4)

    I spoke too soon. What I didn't realize yesterday was that it "partially" worked, i.e. the Yahoo Fantasy Football StatTracker opened its OLD version, rather than the new and improved version you see when you do it with IE. And Yahoo is upfront about that. They plainly say that "Netscape" will not run their latest. But the kicker is (no pun intended) that this morning, when I did my usual morning re-boot, it doesn't work again unless you re-import that registry fix. I looked in the registry before and after and the key says what it's supposed to say, even AFTER re-running the .reg file. I don't know what the story is, speaking of which, here's a web page of this morning that has a javascript link on it that won't work, even AFTER importing the registry fix. The link is about (blush) US President Bush writing a poem to his wife - the javascript link is: THE POEM.....

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