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    Legal Features in XP

    We are a very forward-looking law firm and may consider going to XP (we are already on 2000), but after following along with some of the WOW comments about bugs in XP, I am wondering if any of you who test the program have examined the new legal features for Track Changes and Comparing documents. Does it still have the bugs that 97 and 2000 have when comparing. With CompareRite soon to be defunct and not working well our IT people may be tempted by the hype from Microsoft on XP. What do you think?

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    Re: Legal Features in XP

    I think that any good IT department would sit back and watch while others delve into new products, as we've seen from microsoft before, the latest isn't always the greatest.

    You might find more help on this over in the technet discussion groups, there are many there who are die-hard microsoft fans, and you may find some testers as well who can answer your questions. (given the beating XP recieved in WOW, you'll likely not find many XP users here... ) <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15> Ahem.. although there may be a few.. <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>

    Check out the technet discussion groups <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.microsoft.com/technet/newsgroups/default.asp>here, </A> you may get a better response.

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    Re: Legal Features in XP

    Thank you for your candid remarks. That is exactly what I wanted and I am in total agreement. I really appreciate your link to the Technet discussion groups. I just wish I had more time because I learn a great deal in the group discussions. Again many thanks for your comments.

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    Re: Legal Features in XP

    I haven't yet, but will before the week is out. Our firm currently uses DeltaView on a Win2K platform running O2K. CompareRite just doesn't cut it any longer, add that to Lexis' abandonment of the product for support and/or upgrades and it makes one think Lexis doesn't mind losing that market.

    Maybe your IT department could set up a laptop, or additional desktop workstation to evaluate OXP.

    I can't imagine deploying (particularly in a law office) without having first thoroughly tested any new or upgraded applications. IMHO, upgrade for the sake of upgrade just doesn't make sense.
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    Re: Legal Features in XP

    exactly - you really need to test the features you will use the most and see for yourself how well they work. Do extensive testing of those features before rolling it out to the rest of your office.

    I've done a lot of work with track changes but little with compare so i really can't say if the bugs in 97 and 2000 are still there. I like most of the changes in tracking, but my needs as a tech editor are different than yours in a law office.

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    Re: Legal Features in XP

    Our firm is going to review the product in our main office etc. I am sure they review on a separate machine or environment etc. They too, are testing DeltaView. Like you, I guess Lexis no longer cares about CompareRite. It is my personal opinion after fighting it since Word 97 came out that it never fully integrated the product with the Word environment. Our firm does not use Track Changes for various reasons--one of those being that CompareRite hates it--the other being that the comparison part of it is dangerous in the hands of inexperienced users. Chances of losing the original are great etc. so we don't use it. On the very plus side, I would love to see lawyers be able to use it for editing. When I see secretaries trying to decipher an attorney's scribble, it seems shameful not to be using it. One attorney made the remark, "If I did that, I may as well type my own document." ha!

    If your firm uses DeltaView, you would know if it likes Track Changes. Let me know. Since I am a trainer and our main office is in Omaha, I have little to say about what we use but they do listen to our input. We are having our national support meeting at noon today if you get a chance to answer that part of this e-mail. Thank you so much for your input thus far. It is great to have someone to ask who is in another office and can answer legal questions.

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    Re: Legal Features in XP

    Hi Karen: I just wanted to let you know that I visited the MSVP site and so the review of XP etc. and new items is well referenced in their FAQs etc. That is, of course, MS publicity stuff--biased etc. I would assume that if you are not actually testing XP in any way, that you really can't answer my questions regarding whether or not it really works in areas of comparison etc. I did not want you to spend your valuable time going through any of the feature reports, because it is covered thoroughly. So, if you or some other resource in our business have actual testing results on whether or not MS Track Changes really can be used safely and really does compare properly, etc. I would like to hear about it or be referred to data somewhere. OK?

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    Re: Legal Features in XP

    Thank you for your input MJ. We call documents that won't compare--the "documents from hell." Basically it results from not properly cleaning out old legacy codes in a document. It seems, that even though they did a massive conversion with a good product, our users are still coming up with legacy codes in a paragraph or text they transport from a previous document to a new assembly document. The codes reaches out to bite them when they do a compare. We do use a good cleaning product and often only have to replace the container or set the compatibility to Word 2000, but it wastes time and causes nervous fits. :-)

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    Re: Legal Features in XP

    Meradel -- I'm sorry... we're at the end of a month-long project at work. I'm very psyched about getting my hands on XP, but alas... I can't get installed until Monday. <img src=/S/sad.gif border=0 alt=sad width=15 height=15>

    With respect to DV -- it does not like Track Changes. However, one totally <img src=/S/cool.gif border=0 alt=cool width=15 height=15> cool thing Workshare is dealing with in 2K at least -- nested tables! Their support department has provided me with some samples of some pretty neat stuff, but no update release timeframe.

    If you search DeltaView on these boards, you'll find several other threads which address track changes vs. DV vs. Compare. They go into items of particular concern to those in the legal field -- such as comparing existing documents; comparing documents of different formats (WP vs. Word for instance); metadata, etc.

    Happy reading!
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    Re: Legal Features in XP

    Thank you for your comments. I will look into the DeltaView. We had an IT teleconference call and they have people testing XP. So far they are not excited. I was excited however, yesterday in my search for information to find the Legal User's Guide on the Microsoft site and information in the MVPS. I don't know how much of it will be new information, but I will take it to read on my Easter holiday. Meanwhile, when you get XP installed, let me know your feelings about it. I am thinking of getting a trial copy and installing it in a separate environment at home. The new pricing announcements from MS should quiet some of the fears of subscriptions etc. expressed in other areas of these forums. :-)

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    Re: Legal Features in XP

    Another resource for you:
    <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.lawofficecomputing.com>Law Office Computing</A> e-zine.
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    Re: Legal Features in XP

    Thanks--I quit taking the magazine when I left the law firm and went to middle school. Did not even think of it when I returned to law firm work. It is a great magazine.

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    Re: Legal Features in XP

    As you can see this post was quite a while ago. You had not been able to do much testing. I am interested to know if you have more information now. Our firm will be going to DeltaView. Some have tested it and found it to be a great improvement over CompareRite. But what I am interested in knowing is how Outlook and Word in XP respond to the law firm environment. I read that Outlook requires Word as e-mail editor. We use MacPac and I remember in the past that MacPac did not like using Word as an editor. It caused many problems. Evidently, we are moving to XP before the end of the year so I am wondering if you have some more opinions to offer. Thanks so much. Meradel <img src=/S/hello.gif border=0 alt=hello width=25 height=29>

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    Re: Legal Features in XP

    <hr> I read that Outlook requires Word as e-mail editor<hr>
    permits, not requires. you can use the outlook editor

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    Re: Legal Features in XP

    According to Woody, even if you choose Outlook as the editor it does not stick.

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