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    Office 2003 Upgrade (Office XP Pro)

    I like Office XP pro, and have been using it since it came out. I have heard that there are not many major changes in Office 2003 for a home user like myself. Although I like to have the latest and greatest Office so I can do what I need to do should I choose to do it, the upgrade price is way out of my league right now. I have heard varying opinions on upgrading, and would like to hear some opinions from you guys out there in the forum. The most common thing that I have heard, is that if you do want to upgrade right now, just upgrade Outlook because it has the most revisions. Your thoughts? <img src=/S/shrug.gif border=0 alt=shrug width=39 height=15>

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    Re: Office 2003 Upgrade (Office XP Pro)

    Thanks for the information! If I get the Student edition, am I going to missing much functionality if I have Windows XP Pro? I know I won't get Publisher or Access (which is OK, as long as those remain). Can I install the Student addition over my XP? Are there any differences in the versions of Excel, Word, PPT, or Outlook, or will I get all of the functionality?

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    Re: Office 2003 Upgrade (Office XP Pro)

    Kathy--

    Whatever functionality you get is not impacted by your Operating system being Windows XP Pro. It's impacted by which version of Office you choose so long as you have the basic system requirements to run Office 2003. Those are literally identical to the ones on Office's sites to run Office XP:

    System Requirements to Run Office 2003


    Office 2003 Pro will have 4 components that Student/Standard don't have which are 1) Access 2) Publisher 3) OL BCM 4) XML and IRM To get Infopath you'd have to have the enterprise edition. My understanding is that One Note will be sold at a special studnet price for $49 as a stand alone. The last comes from Microsoft Watch quoting Microsoft.

    If you get a Student Edition, you're getting the same 4 most used Office components as the [/i]Office Standard edition Word, Excel, Powerpoint, Outlook.[/i] See:

    Office 2003 Editions Compared

    Office 2003 Editions Pricing Compared

    Microsoft Reveals Office 2003 Prices, Release PC World


    Microsoft's List of Office 2003 Editions with Hyperlinks

    As to whether you should as best practice install Office 2003 (student edition or any other) [/i]over Office XP[/i] I would like to leave that to people on the lounge with considerably more experience in this type of thing. I know that Microsoft's FAQ's said they could run simultaneously, people have installed Office XP over Office SBE. I and others have been able to run the Office 2003 beta fine on the same hard drive as Office XP, although preference is to have separate hard drives, but the issues of Outlook 2003 and Outlook 2002 and whether to uninstall should be answered by someone with years more experience with the innerworkings of Office setups.

    I would tend to want to install it cleanly:

    Customizing How setup Runs

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    Re: Office 2003 Upgrade (Office XP Pro)

    Ok, the bottom line I got out of this. Excel, Word, PPT, and Outlook should be the exact same versions as included in the Office 2003 Pro package. And, I am inferring from your post, that it would be best to do a uninstall of those 4 applications (the XP version) and then install the new 2003 versions.

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    Re: Office 2003 Upgrade (Office XP Pro)

    Kathy--

    One adjustment to what you said, and if you take a look at the 3 different comparison charts from Paul Thurott, PC World, and the Microsoft Office 2003 site I linked for you, you'll see that Office Standard and Office Student edition, are the same with the big 4 (Word, Excel, PP, Outlook) Office programs as far as sales and use--and there is about a $200 price break for the student edition that is the exact same software--and that's before the coupons that were widely circulated around and after the Office XP launch which will give pricebreaks--usually $50 rebates for the purchase of most office versions--I don't think they'd go much lower than the already considerable discount on student editions.


    If you got Pro you would get the added components I named in the thread above. I don't know your situation--you would have to decide if you really needed 1) Access 2) Publisher 3) OL BCM 4) XML and IRM. I've read a lot about IRM and talked to people to educate me there, but I wish I could tell you in clear terms how the full complement of XML functionality will affect you. The initials OL BCM they are using stand for Outlook 2003 Enhanced With On Line Business Contact Manager.

    I'm not familiar with using BCM--but I have already seen comparisons with ACT 6.0 and know people using them both--some like ACT's organization and functionality a lot better than Outlook--and are very happy with it to organize business contacts
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    As to install scenarios, I want to leave that to people here with considerably more experience in installing Office over previous versions or not who understand the nuances of the Office setup better than I do, and also hope someone will speak to the situation you indicated you might use which would be that if you put off Office's whole version you sprung $110 to buy Outlook (which is going to sell at that set price as a stand-alone and is not going to have a separate upgrade version of Outlook 2003). I will go after some info here, but nothing competes with hands on experience.

    You might want to go back and read Woody's Office Watch 2003. Woody's Office 2003 with Ed Bott is out on and he will be digging into the programs as it launches October 21. See back issues and this one:

    Woody's Office Watch 5 March 2003 and Woody's Office 2003 and back issues.

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    Re: Office 2003 Upgrade (Office XP Pro)

    Kahy--

    I contacted people familiar with Office setup with two scenarios:

    1) Someone has Office XP Pro and they want to install Office 2003 over it.
    2) They have Office XP Pro and want to install Outlook 2003 over it.

    The answer I got was that in both cases uninstallation is not required, because Office 2003 setup will handle it appropriately asking you which version you would like to keep and remove.

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    Re: Office 2003 Upgrade (Office XP Pro)

    If I were you, I'd wait until the first service pack comes out anyway. By then, the many reviewers will have boiled down the key differences and we can see (1)

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    Re: Office 2003 Upgrade (Office XP Pro)

    I ran across this Web Cast and with your interest in Outlook 2003's changes you might want to see. I get anxious to try out the newest versions of Windows and Office, but there is a lot of wisdom in Jefferson's approach to waiting until things settle--bugs get discovered and worked out, and some add-ins and 3rd party modifications come out--and helpful tips get written and developed. Microsoft says they are going to make an effort to significantly beef up tutorials on using their Office components and post them like a mini go-to library on their site Office site--so you might drill it and check it from time to time or just google for what you want and stick "microsoft office site" in the google Kathy:

    823889: Support WebCast: Productivity Innovations in Microsoft Outlook 2003

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    Re: Office 2003 Upgrade (Office XP Pro)

    Also note that if you buy the "Microsoft Office Student and Teacher Edition 2003*" None of these products are eligible for future upgrades. You will have to pay the FULL price NOT upgrade price if and when version 200? comes out.

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    Re: Office 2003 Upgrade (Office XP Pro)

    That's a very good point to consider that I had overlooked not having had those before.

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    Re: Office 2003 Upgrade (Office XP Pro)

    Kathy--

    I have the latest Beta--I think you've summed it up correctly. You're looking at about $280 for an upgrade from XP but you can subtract another close to $50 because every launch they flood the web and stores with coupons. If you can qualify for a student price then there will be discounts there also.

    There is not going to be any Outlook upgrade--I think the main reason there, is that it's so widely used and it is the one day to day component that has significant changes that they are betting it will be in demand. So the price for Outlook straight up is going to be $110--again there could be discount coupons or a student price.

    I'm linking David Pogue's review in The Times last week, and Paul Thurott's review with screenshots, and two threads we've had with a number of links you may or may not have seen. There is one thing you can do if you want to get a feel for it--you can get it in your hands for $8 for the cost of shipping here:

    Office 2003 Preview Trial Site

    Here are some additional links and references that may help you make up your mind:

    Paul Thurott's Preview of Office 2003 Screenshots Included

    Outlook 2003 Overview from Microsoft's Site

    Office 2003 Beta Thread Lounge

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    Re: Office 2003 Upgrade (Office XP Pro)

    You might find these reviews of Office 2003 from the NY Times and Info World helpful:

    Microsoft Office 2003 Reviewed by David Pogue

    Microsoft Reboots Office by John Udell Infoworld

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    Re: Office 2003 Upgrade (Office XP Pro)

    Here's are reviews of Microsoft Office Systems 2003 and One Note by Andrew Hawn, Director of Tech TV's labs. Tech TV is owned by Paul Allen, (Vulcan Entertainmnment) the co-founder of Microsoft.

    Microsoft Office Systems 2003

    Microsoft OneNote

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    Re: Office 2003 Upgrade (Office XP Pro)

    Kathy--

    MS has put a number of clip demos you can watch through WMP to preview Office Systems 2003 including Outlook 2003 with some of the server interaction at this site:

    Great Moments At Work: Introducing the New Microsoft Office System

    Ed. SMBP You can access the demos (video clips shown in WMP) of the various Office components or what Bill Gates called "modules" at the NY launch here:

    Office 2003 Demos Showcase

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    Re: Office 2003 Upgrade (Office XP Pro)

    I want to thank you for all of your helpful information. As far as getting the Student Edition, I realize I will not be able to upgrade it to the next version. However, would it not be better to get it, and get the new Outlook, rather than paying for just the new Outlook version alone. And won't I have to uninstall Office XP (except for Front Page, Publisher, Access, etc, that don't come with the student edition)?

    Again, thanks for helping me out with all of the information.

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