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    Endnote Question (2002 SP-2)

    I have a 300+ page document (it's a book, really). It has several pages worth of endnotes at the end of the document. Now, we need to be able to put a 22 page bibliography AFTER the endnotes at the end of the document. Is this possible? I've attached a 3 page version of a document with endnotes. Basically, I just need to be able to insert a page break AFTER the endnotes and type any text.

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    Re: Endnote Question (2002 SP-2)

    No, you can't insert breaks after the endnotes. I found a note by Word MVP Suzanne Barnhill in which she states that it has been requested for the version to come AFTER Word 2003...

    You'll have to create a separate document for the bibliography. If necessary, fix the starting page number manually just before submitting the final version. (Or make lots of backups and try the master document feature)

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    Re: Endnote Question (2002 SP-2)

    I figured as much. Thanks for the reply, though!

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    Re: Endnote Question (2002 SP-2)

    Hi Becky:
    I don't have Word 2002, but if you go to Insert/Footnotes, which brings up the Footnotes/Endnotes dialog box, there is an options button. You can change the placement of the endnotes to be after each section. Then you can enter a continuous section break after the main body & put a bibliography after the endnotes. See attached.
    Hope this helps,
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    Re: Endnote Question (2002 SP-2)

    I once wrote a macro that would convert the Endnotes from their proprietary format to ordinary body text formatted to look like Endnotes. This would be something to run only when the document was final. I'm not sure what I've done with that document...

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    Re: Endnote Question (2002 SP-2)

    Thank you. I'll keep that one in mind next time something like this comes up. Unfortuantely, the user needed to put multiple section breaks into the document so she could have the endnotes restart counting for each chapter. It was "finished" yesterday (although, I thought that about 2 months ago, too). That's a great idea, though.

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    Re: Endnote Question (2002 SP-2)

    I desperately want the referenced macro--any chance you can find it? I have worked up a reasonably efficient manual procedure that takes advantage of some simple word features (eg, turn on field shading, view all, etc.) that takes about 15-20 minutes for a 40 page manuscript with around 50 refs, but automatic would be much nicer. The best "automatic" way I could come up with was to save as text (thus losing all tables and graphs!) and reformat. I want to keep endnotes in place until 5 minutes before I send the manuscript to a scientific journal

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    Re: Endnote Question (2002 SP-2)

    I used the Lounge search for 5 minutes and could not find it. I also can't find it on my computer (I really need to get organized...). But I don't think I imagined it. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15> ; I know I referred to it in <post#=260541>post 260541</post#>, from June 2003. I probably can re-create it after hours.

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    Re: Endnote Question (2002 SP-2)

    Would greatly appreciate any assistance--am using 2003 BTW. I tried searching also, obviously finding the original post from last year. And if you figure out some way to get and stay organized, please share that too!

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    Re: Endnote Question (2002 SP-2)

    Not my problem. Can do that with no problem.--I just got in on this post because one of the answers implied a macro to do what I want.

    I want to convert all the end notes to true text at the end prior to sending to scientific journal. Manuallyit is a 5-8 step process that copies all the endnotes to a new page, removes the (1) that is in front of all, numbers them with number function, giving a numbered list with the same numbers as the original end-note list. Then find each end note reference in the document, enter the number manually in the format the journal specifies, then at the very end, find all the endnote references and delete them, which deletes the endnotes in the original list. Same process if footnotes. Pain in the tuckus.

    I can convert all cross references to text with control shift F, but that doesn't do a thng for the endnotes or footnotes.

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    Re: Endnote Question (2002 SP-2)

    Below's another macro that puts the end notes after the next-to-last section.

    You can put endnotes after sections, and then suppress endotes for any section.
    The only thing that's really hard to do is to number endnotes continuously across some of the sections (say because you need landscape/portrait pages in some chapters).
    Word 2003 introduced an option to number endnotes continuously, but it's pretty badly broken.
    <pre>Sub AppendixAfterEndnotes()
    '
    ' sets endnote location to end of section:
    With ActiveDocument.Endnotes
    .Location = wdEndOfSection
    End With
    ' sets all sections to have endnotes suppressed:
    ActiveDocument.Sections.PageSetup.SuppressEndnotes = True
    ' tells Word not to suppress endnotes for the next to last ("numSections-1") section:
    Dim numSections
    numSections=ActiveDocument.Sections.Count
    If numSections> 1 then
    ActiveDocument.Sections(numSections-1).PageSetup.SuppressEndnotes = False
    End if
    End Sub
    </pre>

    If you perhaps have several sections (e.g. an index AND a bibliography) after the notes, you will need to modify the code slightly. If you want the endnotes to appear in front of two or three sections, then you may need to change the code to read

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    Re: Endnote Question (2002 SP-2)

    I just have a macro to put footnotes inline with the text (inside some tags). Maybe you can adapt it:
    <img src=/S/cheers.gif border=0 alt=cheers width=30 height=16> Klaus
    <pre>Sub footnotestrip()

    Dim afootnote As Footnote
    Dim NumberOfFootnotes As Integer
    Dim i As Integer
    Dim aFootnoteReference As String
    Dim aFootnoteRefTag As String
    NumberOfFootnotes = ActiveDocument.Footnotes.Count
    For i = NumberOfFootnotes To 1 Step -1
    Set afootnote = ActiveDocument.Footnotes(i)
    afootnote.Range.Select
    Selection.MoveStartWhile Cset:=" " & Chr(9)
    Selection.Cut
    aFootnoteReference = afootnote.Reference.Text
    Select Case aFootnoteReference
    Case Chr(2)
    aFootnoteRefTag = "<FNZ>"
    Case "*"
    aFootnoteRefTag = "<FNS>"
    Case Else
    aFootnoteRefTag = "<FNRef>" _
    & aFootnoteReference & "</FNRef>"
    End Select
    afootnote.Reference.Select
    If afootnote.Reference.Text = Chr(40) Then
    With Dialogs(wdDialogInsertSymbol)
    aFootnoteRefTag = _
    "<FNSym," & .Font & "," _
    & .CharNum & ">"
    End With
    End If
    afootnote.Delete
    Selection.InsertBefore "<FN>" _
    & aFootnoteRefTag
    Selection.Collapse (wdCollapseEnd)
    Selection.Paste
    Selection.InsertAfter "</FN>"
    Next i

    End Sub</pre>


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    Re: Endnote Question (2002 SP-2)

    The original macro was to copy the footnotes into a blank new document, which is somewhat different than what you need. (See <post#=71149>post 71149</post#>.)

    I've attached a module that contains the code to copy the endnotes to the end of the document -- into a new section, although that's not critical -- and replace Word's magic references with text. I found some code to convert roman numerals, since my test document used romans. If you use alphabetical characters, it's a bit easier, but I didn't code it at this point. (Starving... must... eat... lunch...)

    Hope this helps.
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    Re: Endnote Question (2002 SP-2)

    Thank you very much. It looks like I only need the first of the three programs--I did a simple test and it worked. I normally use arabic numbers. Tonight I will test it with a real manuscript that I did manually. I'll let you know. I suspect I need to convert the cross references before I run this.

    Hopefully I won't need to modify it, as I don't do VB and don't have time to learn it this week. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>

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    Re: Endnote Question (2002 SP-2)

    I'm just back from dinner <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>

    You can also select the paragraphs and use the ancient ToolsBulletsNumbers command to insert the numbers:
    WordBasic.ToolsBulletsNumbers FormatNumber:=2, Punctuation:=""
    results in i ii iii iv ...
    WordBasic.ToolsBulletsNumbers FormatNumber:=0, Punctuation:="()"
    results in (1) (2) (3) ...
    WordBasic.ToolsBulletsNumbers FormatNumber:=4, Punctuation:=":"
    results in a: b: c: ...

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