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    2 Versions of Word (2000/2003)

    My company has already upgraded to Office 2003. I do development for 1 client who uses Word 2000 and will likely continue to do so for the life of the product. I need to have a copy of Word 2000 on my system for testing purposes. I know how do do the installation of 2 copies of office, if necessary, but have a few related questions.

    1. Is there a way to extract a Word-only installation from the Office 2000 files so I don't get all the extraneous stuff? I know I can choose Word as tthe only option, but it still creates all the office folders, etc., as I recall.
    2. I am considering purchasing a copy of Word 2000 only, would that be better than installing the Word option from the Office 2000 set up?
    3. How do I COMPLETELY uninstall office from my system short of reformatting?

    Thanks for any help, comments.

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    Re: 2 Versions of Word (2000/2003)

    1. You can create an administrative installation point for Word installation only. Apply administrative SR-1, SP-3, KB824936, KB824993 and KB822035 patches for this installation point. You can alternate default folder structure and hide other Office components installation options by creating a transform. You can merge the transform into data1.msi or put an entry for it in setup.ini. After that you can burn installation point folder onto CD - it will be Word installation CD the way you want.

    2. Differences between Office and Word Standalone products are cosmetic (for example, Installer entries), you can ignore them. But in terms "user-friendly" vs "technical" Stanalone version is "better".

    3. The answer to your question depends of version of Office. There are special utilities for "complete" uninstalling Office 97, Office 2000 Disk 1 and Office 2000 Disk 2 (you can find them on Microsoft website). There are no such utilities for Office XP and 2003, Microsoft presumes that Office Uninstall can do it. So in brief: if you use Windows XP, create Restore Point BEFORE installing Office; for other versions create a partition image (with Symantec Ghost or similar program) and don't forget to BACKUP all your datafiles before restoring (uninstalling Office). In other words, short of complete reformatting, there are always be "traces" of Office installation.

    More suggestions: install earlier version of Office first (97, then 2000 next, then XP and 2003 last), but it is not critical: often installation in reverse order caused no problems. Install different versions of Office in different folders (for second, third and so on versions DO NOT use default folder), better install them on different partitions.

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    Re: 2 Versions of Word (2000/2003)

    Thank you! This information was extremely helpful. I will go ahead and try installing Word 2000 from my office setup disks on a separate partition than Office 2003. If that causes problems, I will try another route.

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    Re: 2 Versions of Word (2000/2003)

    Jeannieb--

    To add to the info from Kaplinb--

    If it's MOS 2003 it will definitely uninstall anything cleanly that's a prior edition/version of Office or an Office Beta. It will give you a very clear chance to preserve any older editions you want and they can exist on the same machine but not more than one version of Outlook or a Beta because the Beta uses the same .dlls to draw from and you want the older edition on first. I found Kaplinb's comment that "But in terms "user-friendly" vs "technical" Stanalone version is "better". and I'll have to learn from him why. The MS Office people say you don't need to specify a different folder, but it won't hurt and is a good idea.

    See Post 308533

    Also from a Microsoft International Program Manager for Office and a couple Office MVP's:
    __________________________________________________ _________________________
    I think it goes something like this:

    Installing ANY Office2003 application will result in the removal of all
    pre-release versions (beta) of all Office 2003 applications. (So, install
    Publisher 2003 from the store, and Frontpage 2003 Beta will be removed).

    Installing the Office2003 version of a given application will OFFER to
    remove the prior version (e.g. Install Word 2003 and it will offer to remove
    Word2002).

    A previous version of an Office applications will NOT be uninstalled if
    you're not installing the 2003 version of that specific program (E.g.
    Installing Word 2003 will not remove FrontPage 2002).

    Thanks,

    Eric Lawrence
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    Assistance and Worldwide Services
    __________________________________________________ ___________________________
    If you install an Office 2003 production edition
    running the normal Setup program from the CD it
    will remove all Office 2003 beta apps, as those can't
    coexist with the Office 2003 production products.

    Installing Office 2003 production editions as an
    end user will not remove apps of older production
    version Office apps, for which your Office 2003 CD
    does not have a replacement. If you choose
    'custom installation' you will have more control
    over the upgrade process and can select specific
    behaviors.

    If you're deploying Office 2003 using the Custom
    Installation Wizard available in the ORK.exe
    download from the Office 2003 Resource Kit Toolbox
    http://microsoft.com/office/ork/2003
    you can choose to have it remove older Office apps,
    even if you're not going to have a 2003 replacement.

    For example, MS FrontPage 2003 is not included in
    any Office 2003 Edition, but is available as a standalone
    product. You might choose to remove an older
    FrontPage as part of the Office 2003 installation.
    You could also choose to have it leave an old version
    of an Office app along with the new version. Some companies
    have systems that may require/rely on a specific
    version of an Office app to function.

    The Custom Installation Wizard is generally used
    by Administrators doing an Office deployment but
    with Office 2003 can be used by end users.

    The reason for installing oldest to newest is to
    basically keep from having file mismatches from
    common/shared files. These can often be resolved
    by running a 'repair' of the newer apps if an older
    app was installed last, but when you have a broken
    app that may not be the first thing that comes to
    mind <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>


    This article has additional information on running
    multiple versions.
    http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=828956&FR=1
    Office 2000, XP/2002 and 2003 default to installing
    their unique files into different subfolders of
    program filesMicrosoftOffice

    MS Office System Products MVP / Home Depot-Decor
    __________________________________________________ ______________________

    Q: What I'm currently trying to find out is if you do not select the
    Custom Install and if you go with the default/typical will the
    installation remove applications for which there is no replacement.

    A: It does not remove them.

    Tested via Win XP Pro computer which had Office 2k apps: Word, Excel, FPage,
    Access
    Inserted Office 2k3 Student Edition (does not have Access or FPage)

    Text on the "Type of installation" screen:
    Recommended Install
    Upgrade "...and remove previous versions of Office from your computer"
    (it is the default)
    or choose another type:
    Complete install
    Minimal install
    Typical install
    Custom install

    I selected Upgrade
    Access 2k and FPage 2k were still functional after install

    __________________________________________________ _____________________________

    SMBP

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    Re: 2 Versions of Word (2000/2003)

    Exactly as it was formulated in original post:

    I know I can choose Word as tthe only option, but it still creates all the office folders, etc.

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    Re: 2 Versions of Word (2000/2003)

    Kaplinb--

    Asking so I can learn this distinction Why is the Standalone version of Word or I suppose you mean any Office component better in terms of user friendliness--on first blush that didin't make any sense to me. How?

    But in terms "user-friendly" vs "technical" Standalone version is "better".

    Thanks,

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    Re: 2 Versions of Word (2000/2003)

    I see what you mean--you meant user friendly/cosmetic in terms of set-up and install I think.

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    Re: 2 Versions of Word (2000/2003)

    I also noticed that Woody says this as a tip under "Saving Your Previous Version" p. 1216 of Using Office 2003 and this pretty clearly addresses the need for a separate folder for previous versions:

    Saving Your Previous Office Version pp. 1216-1217 Woody Leonhard:

    "If you have sufficient free disk space and you want to preserve the capability to run previous versions of Office programs, chose customize at the initial Setup screen. (As we noted earlier, choosing a Typic or Upgrade install removes any previously installed Office program and replaces it with the Office 2003 version). When you see the dialogue box tht asks whether you want to remove previously installed applications, (see Figure A.5), insepct the list of available programs and clear the check mark next the the box for any program yu want to keep. Note that you cannot run two versions of Outlook on the same computer. If you install Outlook 2003, you must uninstall any previous version of Outlook.

    Tip: In Office 2000, keeping separate versions of Office appications required that you specify a different locatrion for program files. Office 2003 does not require any such rigmarole. Leave the default directory of the initial dialogue box; the Windows Installer will sort out files appropriately.

    In general, Office 2003 does a good job of respecting earlier versions of Office. All your preferences, for example, are stored in separate branches of the Registry based on version number, so customizations you make in one program will not affect the other. However some unavoidable side effects are caused by using multiple Office versions:

    Icons--launching document icons--you must open the older program first and then open the file.


    Some incompatibilities exist between file formats. Using Office 97 to edit a file created in Office 2003 might expose these differences.

    Because of changes in VBA object modells or capabilityes, macros you create in Office 2003 might not work properly when opened in earlier Office versions."


    For a discussion of file-format options, get the book <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15> and read "Alternative File Formats, p. 73. I find this book very helpful and clear in pushing me toward a better percentile of Office use.

    SMBP

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