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    Duplicate remover - sort of... (Outlook 2002)

    This is a repeat of a questio I have posted some time ago (year or so):


    I'm looking (for years

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    Re: Duplicate remover - sort of... (Outlook 2002)

    No, sorry. but until you find something, you might try grouping mail be "conversation," which will organize your my by the initial subject text. This isn't idea, but it's a start. Try: View | Current View | by Conversation Topic

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    Re: Duplicate remover - sort of... (Outlook 2002)

    Refreshing and old topic again (believe this is a third try in three years now) <img src=/S/brickwall.gif border=0 alt=brickwall width=25 height=15>:

    I'm looking (for years

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    Re: Duplicate remover - sort of... (Outlook 2002)

    Have you tried to sort by subject and delete all but the latest copy?

    I have NOT seen any thing that will do what you want.
    The main problem I see with this is each reply is going to be different, because more data is added.

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    Re: Duplicate remover - sort of... (Outlook 2002)

    I admire the problem, but don't have a solution. <img src=/S/anigrin.gif border=0 alt=anigrin width=19 height=19> I mostly do it the hard way of manually reviewing the threads after sorting by conversation. Have you looked at any of the tools listed on Slipstick?

    Tell us more about your experience with DupeDuster, pro and con?

    (For the convenience of all, especially me, here are some of the Slipstick Listings:

    http://isaiahiro.hp.infoseek.co.jp/D...mailDelete.htm
    http://www.mapilab.com/outlook/duplicate_remover/ *
    http://www.sperrysoftware.com/jcEmailDupli...sEliminator.asp *
    http://www.sperrysoftware.com/jcDuplicateE...rossFolders.asp *
    http://www.slipstick.com/files/ODR5.EXE - FILE

    * these products appear to locate identical duplicates, rather than redundant messages requoted subsequently, but I haven't tested them.)

    ErikJan, shall we write our own? <img src=/S/evilgrin.gif border=0 alt=evilgrin width=15 height=15>
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    Re: Duplicate remover - sort of... (Outlook 2002)

    My experiences with DupeDuster (in short):

    Pro:
    * It works! And saves me hundreds of emails
    * It is the only in its kind (I did -again- look at the references you included: they are all the same and remove only real duplicates (I never have these)
    * It should appeal to many (I'd think) as a lot of us are keeping whole discussion threads as they form for later documentation/reference

    Cons (or better: here's where I think the tool might be improved) -in random order-:
    * it is very, very slow. Although I don't know the algorithm, I'm positive that there must be ways to speed things up
    * it works one folder at a time (no subfolders, no multiple selections)
    * it does not compare attachments (actually, it flags emails with attachments that have replies (without that attachment), as duplicate; which -obviously- is wrong)
    * in each folder to process, one needs to select the emails to process manually (the tool doesn't default to the whole folder if no selection is made)
    * developments to the tool seem to have stopped (actually a long time ago)
    * the tool is not available as add-in but only runs as separate program
    * the tool crashes if anything else than a regular email is in the selection (including, out-of-office messages, accepts, declines from meetings, read-receipts etc.)
    * the tool uses a lot of resources and sometimes it is required to disabled certain Outlook add-ins first

    Some years back, I communicated a lot of this to the original author (and even suggested I'd help him), although initially he seemed responsive at a certain moment communication stopped.

    Wrt to you suggestion to write our own... I'd certainly would like to spend some -private- time on such an effort. Although I have quite some experience in programming (e.g. VB), I'd need help with the complex things, if someone can make a fist start / setup maybe that could work. (Obviously the best thing would be if we could get the existing code and further build on it, saves us re-inventing wheels)

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    Re: Duplicate remover - sort of... (Outlook 2002)

    Do you want to ask him if he'll share the source code?

    I'm a mediocre coder at best., but I have a few things that would help with some of your issues, such as some cookie cutter functions to recursively select all subfolders of a user selected folder.
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    Re: Duplicate remover - sort of... (Outlook 2002)

    I sent out an email the next day (Oct 22nd), explaining in some detail the situation and suggesting several scenarios (new version, working together, giving code to us so we can take this forward).

    To date I have not received an answer... suggest we wait some more and then see if we can assemble a small group of interested experts like yourself in an effort to build something ourselves. I'd like the challenge of building something from scratch like this, learning as we go.
    My personal experience is limited however: I've done some coding in Outlook but most in Excel VBA (and a bit of WORD VBA), further I've been working a bit with VB6 (not .NET [yet]). For the rest... I'm old enough to have seen and done some BASIC, 6502 assembly, FORTRAN, ALGOL, APL (!), PASCAL and some other stuff in my life. Not an expert in anything but sufficient programming experience (I hope).

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    Re: Duplicate remover - sort of... (Outlook 2002)

    Still no response... I'd like to see if we can try to get something off the ground... Anyone interested?

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    Re: Duplicate remover - sort of... (Outlook 2002)

    We are a few years further now and this is STILL one of the tools I am missing the most. Every year around this time, I'm looking to clean-up my email discussion threads for the past year and delete all precursors to each last all-including email in a thread. To date, I haven't been able to find the one tool that does this for me.

    DupeDuster (see this thread) is still out there but unchanged since its first version; attempts to get in contact with the author and work with him (or get the code from him) in an effort to build an improved version have failed (maybe other can try?).

    A search today revealed an MS tool called "Thread Compressor" (see: http://blogs.technet.com/ewan/archive/2007...ou-want-it.aspx and http://search.msdn.microsoft.com/search/De...t=00&lang=en-us).
    This is an older tool and it is difficult to find the code, I was succesful in the end but this is also not what I'm looking for as it re-builds email-threads; all I need is a tool to delete emails that are included in full in a Reply email later.

    I hope that with this revival of the dicussion, I'll find a solution this year. If not, I'll let this go for one-to- three years before re-reviving again.

    (I'm amazed by the absence of such a tool; isn't everyone involved in email discussions suffering from this? I know this saves me upto 25% of my emails (and email-space!) each year; must be terabytes if more people use this).

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    [quote name='ErikJan' post='683085' date='17-Dec-2007 18:44']We are a few years further now and this is STILL one of the tools I am missing the most. Every year around this time, I'm looking to clean-up my email discussion threads for the past year and delete all precursors to each last all-including email in a thread. To date, I haven't been able to find the one tool that does this for me.

    DupeDuster (see this thread) is still out there but unchanged since its first version; attempts to get in contact with the author and work with him (or get the code from him) in an effort to build an improved version have failed (maybe other can try?).

    A search today revealed an MS tool called "Thread Compressor" (see: http://blogs.technet.com/ewan/archive/2007...ant-it.aspx and http://search.msdn.microsoft.com/search/De...;lang=en-us).
    This is an older tool and it is difficult to find the code, I was succesful in the end but this is also not what I'm looking for as it re-builds email-threads; all I need is a tool to delete emails that are included in full in a Reply email later.

    I hope that with this revival of the dicussion, I'll find a solution this year. If not, I'll let this go for one-to- three years before re-reviving again.

    (I'm amazed by the absence of such a tool; isn't everyone involved in email discussions suffering from this? I know this saves me upto 25% of my emails (and email-space!) each year; must be terabytes if more people use this).

    Erik Jan[/quote]

    Everyone,

    After literally years of searching for a certain Outlook tool I'm happy to tell all of you that I believe I finally found it

    Just a very quick recap: I've been looking for a tool that would allow earlier emails in a thread to be flagged for deletion if these are repeated entirely in the quoted part of a response. So these are not real duplicates, but sort-of "pseudo-duplicates".
    As I'm enaged in many discussions with emails flying up and down AND as I tend to keep track of my emails for (at least) several years, I learned the hard way (by manual cleaning) and through a tool called Dupe-Duster that does some of this, that a clean-up step like this could save me up-to 30% of my emails (and hence also PST size).

    About a year ago I sent another begging email to yet another owner of your standard tool to delete duplicates in Outlook (there are many out there) and asked also him this question. MUCH to my surprise, this person (his name is Brana Bujenovic) responded positively and showed an interest in doing this. After many tests and new versions and me going (via my company) to Microsoft for some additional support, there now is a version that appears to do all (and even much more!) that I would have hoped for.

    I've done some testing and up to now things are looking excellent! Curious? The tool is called "Delete Duplicates for Outlook" and can be found here: DDO website. As you can see, it supports the 'normal' duplicate deletion approaches (with many configurable options), but check out the "SPECIAL" button!!! You'll find my dream has come through there.

    I know Brana is open to suggestions and developments to further expand and improve the tool are ongoing.

    I'm a happy user

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    Sperry now has a similar product: http://www.sperrysoftware.com/Outloo...ss-Folders.asp
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnBF View Post
    Sperry now has a similar product: http://www.sperrysof...oss-Folders.asp
    Nope... I do not believe so John. I checked the site you provide a link to and their tool allows duplicates to be removed across folders (something that the tool I described above also supports by the way). The, still, unique part of the tool I'm describing is the fact that it allows deletion of emails that are quoted later in replies (so in fact these are not duplicates at all. The information is however still present in the reply). Again, as an example, when the tool looks at this latest discussion between us, it would decide to flag and delete your remark about Sperry as I have quoted it above so it's available to the reader still.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ErikJan View Post
    Nope... I do not believe so John. The, still, unique part of the tool I'm describing is the fact that it allows deletion of emails that are quoted later in replies (so in fact these are not duplicates at all.
    Thanks for that explanation, ErikJan.
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