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    Double Apps

    I don't know why, but some of the apps that load at startup [MS Broadband Utility, 12Ghosts, OSA9.EXE (MS Office 2000) ] end up *tripling* up -- in the Startup, User Startup, and All Users Startup folders.

    How? Why? Does it matter? Cause it seems to make my other progs run all fouled up...

    ??

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    Re: Double Apps

    The how and why I really cannot answer for you. First, verify that they are really starting three times (or more) by using a startup program utility. Mike Lin's Startup Control Panel is an excellent and free utility to check all of your startup locations and selectively disable/enable items.

    For what it's worth, I've NEVER seen any benefit to OSA9.EXE - a waste of resources, in my opinion. I'd kill that one permanently. Also, remove any shortcuts that are doubled/tripled up and see if you still have flaky behavior. Do you see multiple instances of these programs running in Task Manager? And where is it that you are seeing these multiple instances - in Explorer, the start menu, or elsewhere?
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    Re: Double Apps

    Chuck, if that's the case...I would try right-clicking on the start menu, selecting Explore All Users, and then checking the Startup folder for the Default, All Users, and the profile name that you use. See if the shortcuts exist under each of the folders. What you are seeing may be a display anomaly. The first thing we need to establish is whether or not all of these processes are loading more than once. You did not state where you discovered that they are appearing in triplicate.

    Can you expound a little bit on what is happening with your other applications that you say are behaving strangely?
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    Re: Double Apps

    Edited by WyllyWylly to add URL code.

    WyllyWylly:

    I use StartEd (http://www.outertech.com/), and, although not *perfect*, I have found it to be pretty straight forward...

    Seema that they all load as listed... and yet they don't actually stay loaded (only allowing one run at a time?) ...

    I'll poke around...

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    Re: Double Apps

    Mark:

    First, and maybe last, since my last post (an hour or so ago), I decided to (and did ) restore my disk from a ghost image...

    I was getting errors in scandisk, so I just backtracked... but, for your reference, I was getting that info from a review via StartEd... it shows all startup progs whether HKLM Runs or Startup groups or... and they were showing up in 2-3 places (as listed previously).

    As I go forward now though with the "reconstruction", I still would like / need to know whether this should be happening...

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    Re: Double Apps

    Mark:

    While I'm doing this... I also have a prog (mobsync.exe /logon) that loads on startup...

    As far as I can tell, it has to do with scheduling synch of files... something I would never need... so is there some way you know of to "turn this off"?

    As far as I can see, if I just delete it from the startup progs, it is put back by MS automatically...

    ??

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    Re: Double Apps

    Chuck, you should not see doubling or tripling up of application startups. That's why I was curious as to what tool you were using to determine it was occurring. I would troubleshoot it further by checking with another tool, either the one I suggested or something else that you find on your own. This way you can verify your results. It's entirely possible that the utility you are using is displaying false or misleading information.

    MOBSYNC.EXE (for MObile SYNChronization) is the part of Internet Explorer that is responsible for synchronizing offline web pages. It does have its uses, I suppose, but if you have a persistent connection to the Internet, it's unnecessary (especially on non-mobile computers). Some would argue that it's unnecessary regardless. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15> You can modify the settings for syncronization by running mobsync.exe from Start - Run.

    If you want to be rid of it entirely:
    <UL><LI>Run mobsync.exe.
    <LI>Click on the setup button.
    <LI>Uncheck the synchronization options, then deselect the option to synchronize your home page.
    <LI>From Windows Explorer, select Tools - Folder Options - Offline Files.
    <LI>Deselect the Enable Offline Files option.[/list]On your next reboot, you will find the programm is no longer running by default.

    HTH,
    -Mark

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    Re: Double Apps

    Mark:

    FOA, thanks for the tip re mobsync....


    I d/l and installed Mike Lin's prog... according to that, there are no dups AtThisTime... I'll keep track, and let you know...

    I a prog installs to the Startup folder, it is in effect in the "All Users Startup" folder...???

    'Cause if so, does "it" do so because it isn't following the "new protocol"? Because it wasn't done with W2K (multi-users) in mind?

    THEN,,,,,,

    If I install my WIn2K over Win98 (DOS) instead of using NTFS (a total nightmare for me), should the Scandisk from W98 "work"? I mean, to fix disk errors etc.?

    Ya know what I need? A **GOOD** book on Win2K that goes a bit beyond basic usage but not to the programmer level... That way I won't drive you so nuts... every answer leads to another question...

    .....ANYWAY.... I think my disk may be the root of this particular problem ... (based on above?) ... and I'll be able to cure that in about a week...

    Thanks again...
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    Re: Double Apps

    <img src=/S/laugh.gif border=0 alt=laugh width=15 height=15> Don't worry about asking questions, that's why the Lounge is here and that's why I signed on many moons ago.

    Unfortunately, there is no simple answer to where programs install their Start Menu links. Some place them in All Users, some in Current User, and some really irritating ones do it in both but those seem to be rare. But you are on the right track, if the developer is worth his/her salt, they will provide options for where the program links are created in Windows 2000.

    If you install 2000 over 98 and do not convert the disk to NTFS, then scandisk from 98 will indeed run and do what you want. If you do upgrade 98 to 2000, consider using the CHKDSK utility in Windows 2000. Two means to the same end, they both do the same thing, just in different ways.

    As for books, I'd suggest you post something in the Books/Ezines forum. I tend to get my information from the net and from ezines myself.
    -Mark

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    Re: Double Apps

    Mark:

    Just signed up in the Ezines forum... thanks for all the help...

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