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    Computer House cleaning (Win XP Pro V2002 SP1)

    I decided that I wanted to copy my bloated Outlook files to CD so I archived them and did just that. Then I got rid of some "junk files" from my documents, etc. After that I went to disk cleanup and got rid of the junk it said was there. One of the items listed is "compress old files" and that is an item I do not understand. What does this mean? What kind of files are these? It shows the size as 1,484,061 or maybe that is the number of files because it doesn't say whether it is kb or mb or whatever.

    If I check this box and say go ahead and take care of it, what is my operating system going to do with this item? <img src=/S/confused.gif border=0 alt=confused width=15 height=20>

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    Re: Computer House cleaning (Win XP Pro V2002 SP1)

    Windows has utility to compress files similar, for example, to WinZip. It prompts you to use this utility.

    When you access any file on your computer (by double-clicking in Windows Explorer, or open from the application) Windows marked this file as "accessed". If you didn't call a file for a certain period of time (default is 50 days) Windows proposes you to "compress" it. As you see, it can be any file: document, picture, log or slide show. Windows doesn't care. You have 1.48 MB of such files (I don't understand why it falls short for displaying letters "MB"), but it doesn't mean you will not need them tomorrow.

    Another question is how much room you will recover by compressing these files. Some types of files (txt or doc) can be compressed to one quarter or so of its size, other types (PDF or MP3) are already compressed and you can't compress them significantly (maybe for couple of percents or so). But you will waste your time for waiting to uncompress them.

    So in general I would not recommend to use compress utility: the better decision is to move rarely needed files to removable storage (CD-R, for example).

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    Re: Computer House cleaning (Win XP Pro V2002 SP1)

    Thank you for the explanation! These files then, could well be something I was working on and lost interest in - for the time being. I don't like the idea of compressing files. I would rather just off load them in most cases - if I can figure out what they are. Since this is a very small amount compared to my HD size, I won't worry about doing anything for now!!


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    Re: Computer House cleaning (Win XP Pro V2002 SP1)

    Hi Skitter,

    There was some discussion here in the lounge awhile back about DiskCleanup. Apparently, after one of the XP updates, on some people's systems, the DiskCleanup utility would hang and run endlessly. A fix for this was posted in the lounge and I saved it as the RTF document I have attached. It involves a small registry hack and will remove the "Compress Old Files" option from the DiskCleanup dialog box. Bruce Krymow told me that he had begun using this function when he first started with XP, thinking he was doing something to improve his system's performance. It eventually slowed his system to a crawl and took several hours to uncompress all the files and get the system running normally again. My system was affected by the update problem and doing the "fix" made the system run DiskCleanup in a snap rather than hesitating for a moment or two before going into what seems like an endless loop. I recommend doing this for performance as well as a preventative measure (so you don't accidentally compress any files). I agree with your assessment of compressing files. Given today's PC resources, I can't think of a bigger waste of time.
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    Re: Computer House cleaning (Win XP Pro V2002 SP1)

    I have to agree. If you really, really, need to save or keep the files, back them up to CD or something and get them out of the way.

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    Re: Computer House cleaning (Win XP Pro V2002 SP1)

    What you do need to do is compact you old PST file. The issue is that Outlook PST files are a flat database and not a relational database. That means that it is very inefficient in storing data. The more you use them, the more the data sprawls across your hard drive. That is why it is recommended that you compact Outlook files.

    The option is available by right-clicking on the folder inside Outlook's tree view (default name - Personal Folders). Choose Advanced and then Compact Now.

    Like any database, it will run more efficiently once you compact it. You will find that the size reduction can be dramatic. I have compacted Outlook files many times and have had only performance improvements.

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    Re: Computer House cleaning (Win XP Pro V2002 SP1)

    <img src=/S/thankyou.gif border=0 alt=thankyou width=40 height=15> for this tip and the means to do it. I will give it a go and see what happens. I know I was a bit stymied about that "compression" item and now that you mention it, I don't remember it being there until now. I did do some "Windows Updating" - so as you said, it showed up after doing that. I know I will be very happy when <img src=/S/claude.gif border=0 alt=claude width=21 height=21> gets our 'search' function restored! Boy, I do miss it because the first thing I would usually do is try and hunt down my answer before asking! I really appreciate our Lounge and folks who willingly help each other!!! <img src=/S/yep.gif border=0 alt=yep width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>


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    Re: Computer House cleaning (Win XP Pro V2002 SP1)

    Hi Unkamunka,
    This is a house cleaning measure I have done with Outlook Express but the only thing I do with Outlook is use the Archive tool. Since I did a complete archiving of my data and then saved it to a CD (which I see that Cowboy is in agreement with <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>) and then even a backup CD since I tend to be so cautious, I deleted the data from the HD completely. Now Outlook seems to be snapping along pretty well. <img src=/S/thankyou.gif border=0 alt=thankyou width=40 height=15> for the suggestion! <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>


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    Re: Computer House cleaning (Win XP Pro V2002 SP1)

    Spoken like a true desciple of the master (Woody, of course). <img src=/S/yep.gif border=0 alt=yep width=15 height=15> For his full explaination of compacting PST files go here.

    I don't use Outlook myself. I find it to be overkill in a personal computing environment outside the business world. But if Woody says that it's important to do something to improve your computing experience, I listen. Once again, I stand corrected. Some files should be compacted and you need to know which ones.

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