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    System Volumn Info. (Home SP1)

    Here I am again, with another problem.

    I'm getting a deny msg. when I go to System Volumn Information on C.
    It reads: SVI is not accessible, access is denied.

    Why is it denied and how can I see the information?
    I don't go there often, so I have no idea when it started.
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    Re: System Volumn Info. (Home SP1)

    What you are seeing is normal behaviour; this folder contains System Restore points. You can't view it while Windows is running. It is open by the operating system for exclusive use, so there is no way to view it save from a command line using the recovery console.
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    Re: System Volumn Info. (Home SP1)

    Well!!! I like that. I presumed there was nothing on this computer that I couldn't at least see. Shows me just how wrong I can be. You've put my mind at rest, I'm just nosey that way. Always wanting to know everything that's denied me. If you want to bring out the bird dog in me, just say I can't or tell me no.

    Thank you so much, I needed to be taken down a peg or two.
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    Re: System Volumn Info. (Home SP1)

    <hr> If you want to bring out the bird dog in me, just say I can't or tell me no<hr>

    OK, you can't, and NO!

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    Re: System Volumn Info. (Home SP1)

    Mark--

    This is not at all a "see you can access the folder post." Because SR has saved my tail several times now, and I think I understand how to use it and sometimes it has gotten me to Windows when I couldn't get back other ways--but maybe someone else could have deployed the right boot disk to do it. I'm looking for guidance here because I haven't worked with the System Volume folder to actually diagnose whether a particular restore point was healthy or corrupted--we have had a few threads on it. I have seen articles say the only way to tell if a restore point is corrupt is to try to restore to it--I know that prior to SP1 that wasn't true because the SR Team fixed a problem with accessing them. I've also read you can examine the restore points to see if they are corrupt or not by looking at them in the System Volume folder.

    I'm confused about the Accessing the System Volume Folder. I thought you [could access it from the gui if you unhid files and folders and possibly hidden Windows files and folders, and that I am accessing it here. If I can't readily find a folder, I'll usually unhide them both. I thought that's where you could see the restore points and have read you could examine for corrupt ones, but I'm not sure I could tell that. I've read that Srdiag.exe is a tool for capturing and viewing system restore files in order to examine them. I know about the switches you can use with it to create cab files, but what I don't know is if it is confined to use as a command line tool--I am guessing that's the case from what you just said. David Karp's book says they aren't accessible from Explorer--and I guess he means the gui.

    Restore points are saved in under x:system volume information_restore{558C94FD-3C7F-4954-A02D-26679E6D849E}. Each restore point's files are saved in a folder named RPXX where XX is a two digit number corresponding to the restore point.


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    30953: How to Gain Access to the System Volume Information Folder

    Don't I have access to System Volume to examine SR points here? I am clicking into the folder, and into the restore points but then I get the box you see asking me if I want to add the restore point to the registry. If I have the restore point, what change exactly do they mean?

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    Re: System Volumn Info. (Home SP1)

    Your reply needs a couple of subjects.
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    Re: System Volumn Info. (Home SP1)

    Did you really need to be taken down a peg or two? I think of it as understanding what your computer is doing. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>
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    Re: System Volumn Info. (Home SP1)

    The service keeps the file open while the system is up. You can access the folder while Windows is running only if you turn off System Restore for that drive or stop the service. Otherwise, it's in use and access is denied.

    Personally I see no need to go looking in that folder for information. The System Restore interface provides all the detail you need if you want to look at restore points. Understanding how it works and fiddling with it are two different things. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>
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    Re: System Volumn Info. (Home SP1)

    <img src=/S/rofl.gif border=0 alt=rofl width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/rofl.gif border=0 alt=rofl width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/rofl.gif border=0 alt=rofl width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/rofl.gif border=0 alt=rofl width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/rofl.gif border=0 alt=rofl width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/rofl.gif border=0 alt=rofl width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/rofl.gif border=0 alt=rofl width=15 height=15>
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    Re: System Volumn Info. (Home SP1)

    I would definitely agree with you there. I think there is virtue in being curious and exploring folders in Windows and the best is understanding why things happen. But clicking into the System Volume folder as I did there doesn't really add anything for me, and maybe in some circumstances it has been useful to examine restore points with that SRDIAG.EXE tool and its creation of a CAB file, but I can't really see much use--if you examine one and can recognize it is corrupted, then what would you do about it? It is not going to be fixed so in that sense trying several and if a particular point works you know it's not bad would seem to be obvious. My reference to before SP1 was that I read access to restore points was being blocked or you were "locked out" and this issue was fixed in SP1. That would imply a lot of people tried to restore prior to SP1 and were disappointed and probably went away from that restore point shrugging.

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    Re: System Volumn Info. (Home SP1)

    <hr>Your reply needs a couple of subjects<hr>
    I was hoping you could come up with your own.I can't think of any, because I never use those two words when talking to a female.

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    Re: System Volumn Info. (Home SP1)

    You are a very wise man. I wish you could teach that to some gentleman I know. I can't think of a subject either because I very seldom hear those two dirty words. The few times I heard them, I was able to make the speaker issue a quick retraction.
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    Re: System Volumn Info. (Home SP1)

    That's true. But sometimes I think I'm too durn nosey, I seem to want to know about everything I see on this computer. When I had Win 95 I caused more blue screens of death, and had to format my HD several times until I learned not to delete things I knew nothing about.

    So I installed XP and installed a much larger HD, now I leave everything alone because I have more space than I'll ever be able to fill up. That proves that you can teach an old dog, new tricks.
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    Re: System Volumn Info. (Home SP1)

    No harm in that...I once broke my workstation at the office for three days in the name of security. Or at least that is what I told my boss. <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15> Besides, there are always other things that you can do other than to delete files!
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    Re: System Volumn Info. (Home SP1)

    Ah yes, I've found that out. The first thing to NOT do is keep hitting that delete button, that cures a lot of computer ills. And the computer wouldn't be sick if I hadn't been so fast with that button.

    Now when I see something I know nothing about, I do a couple of things. I ask Google and then the people on this board, not necessarily in that order..
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