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    Backup Difs

    From an "end-user viewpoint", what's the difference between using Ghost to back up, or SystemState?

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    Re: Backup Difs

    What and where do I find "SystemState"?

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    Re: Backup Difs

    System State Data ... part of a backup done thru Programs / Accessories / System Tools Backup and then use "Backup Wizard".
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    Re: Backup Difs

    The main difference is that a Ghost backup can be used to restore the entire partition (or disk). To restore a system state backup you first need to reinstall the same version of Windows and then restore the system state over the top.

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    Re: Backup Difs

    Stuart:

    I guess then the short form of my next question is:

    "What's the point?"

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    Re: Backup Difs

    I'm not sure that I understand the short form of your question

    SystemState backup is provided as part of the operating system. It enables you to backup and restore the state of the system.
    Ghost is a third party utility which enables you to copy and restore partitions and disks.

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    Re: Backup Difs

    Stuart:

    But by the time I have re-installed Win2K etc, and most probably other misc software affected by the re-install, couldn't I, just as rapidly and a LOT more completely, just restore the partition?

    Wouldn't this correction by virtue of being more complete be more thorough?

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    Re: Backup Difs

    That is indeed the value add of 3rd party products such as Ghost

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    Re: Backup Difs

    The answer to your question also depends on your needs. I would much rather just back up the System State to the hard drive before a software installation instead of ghosting an entire partition. One is a fairly minor operation and the other is more involved. Ghost images are great for a quick revival after, say, a hard drive tanks. But for day to day use, they may be overkill. The moral, I suppose, is not to shoot a flea with an elephant gun.
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    Re: Backup Difs

    Mark:

    I just get gun-shy I suppose...

    I've had past incidents where the overwrite of a file etc. excludes registry restores from being "enough".

    Does a System State restore preclude missing files (in the key directory(ies)?

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    Re: Backup Difs

    Here is a technet article that shows what is included in a system state backup.

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    Re: Backup Difs

    Preclude? Do you mean, overwrite? System State includes the following:

    <UL><LI>The registry,
    <LI>The COM+ class registration database,
    <LI>Files under Windows File Protection, and
    <LI>boot files.[/list]It will always overwrite the current system state if you restore it to its original location. You can specify an alternate location if you want to compare backup or file contents.

    HTH,
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    Re: Backup Difs

    Stuart:

    That'll help... thanks.

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    Re: Backup Difs

    Mark:

    Does help... thanks...

    I spse that the drive shouldn't be that critical... except it contains my daughter's pics from Rome (singing for the Pope, no less) which are irreplacable...

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    Re: Backup Difs

    Sounds critical enough to me, if the pictures are irreplaceable. Perhaps you could slave it to a working system and rescue them?
    -Mark

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